Actually he explained and SURPRISE! It has nothing to do with being "friendly" to Putin. (Reply #210)

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210. Actually he explained and SURPRISE! It has nothing to do with being "friendly" to Putin.

It's the same reason he voted against it the first time, he's concerned the Iran sanctions will be used as an excuse to back out of the Iran deal - something Republicans and hardliners in Iran have been trying to do since it was signed.

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I don't know where people get their information about Bernie being a Russian agent. Maybe McCarthyism is becoming fashionable again?

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Why is Bernie Sanders voting to NOT put sanctions on Russia? [View all]	Eliot Rosewater	Jul 2017	OP
he said he was worried it would scuttle the iran deal..nt.	drray23	Jul 2017	#1
I don't agree with more sanctions on Iran, that is one more way to go after anything Obama	Motley13	Jul 2017	#45
And yet no Democrat thought that.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#80
Only two of them opposed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution and there were more of them then	Tom Rinaldo	Jul 2017	#103
Bernie also voted against the war in Iraq.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#104
can't imagine that happened here tho'	JNelson6563	Jul 2017	#105
No back then he was a DU darling.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#107
I trust Bernie... there's a reason he's so popular.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jul 2017	#253
Explain how these sanctions impact the nuclear deal?	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#110
There have been about 8 DU OP's this month expressing "surprise" about Sanders stance	Tom Rinaldo	Jul 2017	#127
Well, you didn't answer the question. Tell me how these specific sanctions	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#134
Trust who you want. I never said "undo". They endanger them to some extent.	Tom Rinaldo	Jul 2017	#136
"to some extent" is pretty vague. I have to go with the judgment of the Democrats on this one.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#137
Nicely done!	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#155
Agree!	PufPuf23	Jul 2017	#224
I just hope their pilot light doesn't go out, all that gas just needs one spark and...	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#225
I do find the situation disconcerting.	PufPuf23	Jul 2017	#226
I'm not worried, most people can recognize fake news.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#229
Well I'm surprised. I don't have time to be on this site 24/7. I wondered who voted against it.	kerry-is-my-prez	Jul 2017	#180
Of course not...	Tom Rinaldo	Jul 2017	#195
And if they keep reading it gets quite entertaining.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#203
Exactly	left-of-center2012	Jul 2017	#212
They (Democrats) did not vote for Gulf of Tonkin.... for God sakes anyone involved is long dead.	Demsrule86	Jul 2017	#237
Well, obviously the majority is always right, eh?	X_Digger	Jul 2017	#242
Well, if you want to go with the idea that every Democrat in the Senate is wrong,	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#243
Is that similar to saying	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#244
I don't trust the Repubs. But I do trust the Democrats. Don't you?	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#246
I trust that	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#248
Oh lordy, you think this vote is a purity test for Sanders?	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#252
I think you have responded	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#254
Argument from authority, eh? Novel approach, no points. n/t	X_Digger	Jul 2017	#245
I don't doubt the authority of the Democrats. Do you?	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#247
We're always right, eh? Logic isn't your strong suit is it? n/t	X_Digger	Jul 2017	#249
We're right on this. If the only objection is that Bernie didn't go along, then I'd say your appeal	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#251
John Kerry agreed but what does he know? He's only the former SOS.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#94
thats iran kerry is talking about.	drray23	Jul 2017	#99
Iran sanctions are included in the bill.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#101
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how the sanctions affect the Iran deal.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#111
Good question. So far, it's whataboutism	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#124
Yes. I would like some explanation as to how the sanctions affect the Iran deal.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#125
+1	onetexan	Jul 2017	#130
See #127 above. n/t	Tom Rinaldo	Jul 2017	#133
what just passed are sanctions on russia, iran, and north korea	left-of-center2012	Jul 2017	#213
It has something to do with Iran, I think.	MineralMan	Jul 2017	#2
I wish he'd explain	left-of-center2012	Jul 2017	#215
A Google search would have answered your question.	SamKnause	Jul 2017	#3
Yes	left-of-center2012	Jul 2017	#217
Sanders Statement on Iran and Russia Sanctions	leftstreet	Jul 2017	#4
That was in June	oberliner	Jul 2017	#10
No change then n/t	leftstreet	Jul 2017	#37
Pretty much	oberliner	Jul 2017	#66
He's protecting Obama's Iran deal, as all Democrats should. The pukes want it derailed.	Autumn	Jul 2017	#5
So 48 Democratic Senators, ALL of them in fact, are for blowing up Obama's Iran	Eliot Rosewater	Jul 2017	#14
I would suggest that the 48 are buying the argument that the Iran sanctions will NOT blow up the	karynnj	Jul 2017	#46
I agree	grantcart	Jul 2017	#106
The answer is in junior-high-school civics.	Jim Lane	Jul 2017	#63
Dear Eliot	saidsimplesimon	Jul 2017	#153
Camp is very entertaining,	left-of-center2012	Jul 2017	#219
The trump administration has re-certified the Iran deal twice now, as they are required to do....	George II	Jul 2017	#30
So, you know more than John Kerry -- who knew?	karynnj	Jul 2017	#48
I don't agree. Stopping the Russians is more important.	Demsrule86	Jul 2017	#238
You don't have to agree. I agree with John Kerry and trust nothing that Trump and his bunch want	Autumn	Jul 2017	#241
Because they come with stupid sanctions on Iran.	Voltaire2	Jul 2017	#6
They aren't stupid	oberliner	Jul 2017	#15
Because of AIPAC and not because the sanctions are needed.	alarimer	Jul 2017	#50
BS	oberliner	Jul 2017	#65
It's a safe place for Sanders to differentiate himself from Democrats.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#7
OR	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#11
I don't believe that for a second.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#16
Of course you don't n/t	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#20
No one would believe that democrats in both houses...	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#27
Could they	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#100
Why did John Kerry publically speak against the added sanctions at this point in time	karynnj	Jul 2017	#51
Kerry isn't on the inside.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#53
Kerry was Secretary of State until January 20, 2017 and NO Democrat is really on the inside now	karynnj	Jul 2017	#59
I'm aware of the position Kerry held.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#64
You essentially implied that he would not understand the potential impact of sanctions on Iran	karynnj	Jul 2017	#71
"Bernie's vote was a protest vote"	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#72
and what do YOU think he is protesting? nt	karynnj	Jul 2017	#75
It was in the start to this conversation. Nt	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#76
It made no sense then and it makes no sense now	karynnj	Jul 2017	#81
I disagree.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#84
Have you ever met Bernie? I have, though I would not say I know him, but I know many who do	karynnj	Jul 2017	#89
There is a lot out there that goes against what you are saying.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#96
My definition of a phony politician is one who votes for political or strategic effect, not on their	karynnj	Jul 2017	#102
Do you think Obama's Iran deal should be done away with and the republican sanctions are better?	Autumn	Jul 2017	#19
Loaded question with no back-up of the assertion being made. Nt	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#29
Republican will use sanctions to get Iran to back out of the deal. That's my opinion.	Autumn	Jul 2017	#36
I don't see anyone here or in the party who are trusting Trump.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#41
Non-sequitor. I said I trust nothing Trump and the pukes do. The word I refers to me.	Autumn	Jul 2017	#43
It clearly insinuating others did.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#44
The word I insinuates myself. Me. There's not a lot of point in you attempting to argue I	Autumn	Jul 2017	#73
I don't get the aggression.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#74
I wasn't arguing. I was posting my opinion, which you seem to have a problem with.	Autumn	Jul 2017	#78
I love the rofl smilie!!!!	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#82
Yeah I remembered you would. eom	Autumn	Jul 2017	#90
Thank you for thinking of me. Nt	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#91
People keep saying that, but the Iran deal is not in jeopardy and will not be "done away with"....	George II	Jul 2017	#31
Weird, because we know the Russians rigged	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#34
If that is your answer, then you are missing the point	virtualobserver	Jul 2017	#55
I don't agree. So if I'm missing the point, just what is the point?	George II	Jul 2017	#58
The point is that Iran could back out of the deal.	virtualobserver	Jul 2017	#122
But Isn't That Somewhat Hypocritical?	Me.	Jul 2017	#35
It's politics.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#39
But Honestly, I thought That Sort Of Thing	Me.	Jul 2017	#49
I like Sanders.	Weekend Warrior	Jul 2017	#52
Agreements Are Nice	Me.	Jul 2017	#54
You don't get to be senator without being good st that sort of thing	Nevernose	Jul 2017	#60
I was wondering the same thing	Gothmog	Jul 2017	#8
I have to give you points for persistence	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#9
I know, his reason has been posted time and agin. I think any Dem should want Obamas' Iran deal	Autumn	Jul 2017	#13
Yet you are saying ALL democratic senators want to blow up Obama deal, since	Eliot Rosewater	Jul 2017	#17
No I am not saying that. I said any Dem should want to support Obama's Iran deal over anything	Autumn	Jul 2017	#23
Voting for something isn't the same as wanting a thing	metalbot	Jul 2017	#129
+1 nt	riderinthestorm	Jul 2017	#21
I'll take Elizabeth Warren's judgment over Sanders.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#83
I'll trust both. It doesn't have to be one or the other. eom	Autumn	Jul 2017	#85
On Russia, it does. I take the judgment of the female, Democratic Senator, over	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#87
What I won't do is trust anything or any bill the republicans put up or want a yes vote on.	Autumn	Jul 2017	#88
Wait, what? What does gender have to do with this issue?	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#95
I respect Kerry, he was my Senator. I'm interested in any statement he made about the actual bill	seaglass	Jul 2017	#131
Nice strawman but I'm not interested in knocking it down today.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#151
I will take Elizabeth Warren over Sanders, every time. It's great if Bernie	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#108
I don't consider gender to be an indicator of intelligence, I find both to be intellegent. eom	Autumn	Jul 2017	#112
What is "eom" and is there a spellcheck?	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#113
end of message. Yeah there is one but I didn't use it so I may have misspelled something	Autumn	Jul 2017	#114
Indeed. Why would anyone think that gender is related to intelligence?	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#115
Some people seem to think that. I don't care if they disagree. I know that both will always	Autumn	Jul 2017	#116
It's so 19th century.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#117
Oh yeah, it's so easy to become one Their gender has nothing to do with their intelligence or	Autumn	Jul 2017	#119
A million times since July 16th?	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#18
Do you think it was more?	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#22
More what?	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#26
The Iran part cant be true otherwise the ENTIRE democratic party wouldnt	Eliot Rosewater	Jul 2017	#28
+1, good points, it doesn't add up. nt	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#32
It seems like you're really straining in this post	dragonlady	Jul 2017	#38
Here's a poll. Take your pick	Autumn	Jul 2017	#118
Did someone say PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS ?	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#120
Why yes, PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS did come into play.	Autumn	Jul 2017	#121
Your logic makes no sense	Kentonio	Jul 2017	#139
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2017	#165
...	demmiblue	Jul 2017	#12
Becase it contains increased sanctions on Iran.	haveahart	Jul 2017	#24
This is flamebait horseshit.	rateyes	Jul 2017	#25
I wish Trump would tweet about cocks or something	leftstreet	Jul 2017	#42
For real!	rateyes	Jul 2017	#47
I think you nailed it. nt	LostOne4Ever	Jul 2017	#69
I am so tired of this shit.	rateyes	Jul 2017	#70
Because He Honeymooned In Russia?	Me.	Jul 2017	#33
He went to Russia representing the town he was mayor of at a sister city	karynnj	Jul 2017	#56
This Was Meant As A Jest	Me.	Jul 2017	#77
Bernie has NEVER been friendly to Putin. Had to slip that in?	Greybnk48	Jul 2017	#40
+1000	kacekwl	Jul 2017	#57
It was a protest vote of some kind. He didn't like something	MineralMan	Jul 2017	#61
Rand Paul also opposes the Iran sanctions	oberliner	Jul 2017	#67
OK. It still doesn't make any difference.	MineralMan	Jul 2017	#68
No they actually didn't	Alittleliberal	Jul 2017	#144
Yes, they did	oberliner	Jul 2017	#145
Rand also didn't support the bill explicitly because of the Russia sanctions NT	Alittleliberal	Jul 2017	#146
I have been so disappointed in Sanders	kimbutgar	Jul 2017	#62
Why are you disappointed that Bernie supports Obama's Iran deal?	Kentonio	Jul 2017	#135
If the defense of Bernie on this site is any indication, say goodbye to the House and senate	Eliot Rosewater	Jul 2017	#143
You say he's "seemingly friendly" to Putin - why does that seem so to you?	David__77	Jul 2017	#79
When you vote against sanctions on Putin for his behavior then yeah,	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#86
To you.	David__77	Jul 2017	#93
Bills are bundled all the time. But I think that Bernie is wrong on this issue.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#109
How would they not?	Kentonio	Jul 2017	#138
You are assuming a lot of feelings. Do you have any proof that the people targeted in these	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#140
I'm not assuming anything	Kentonio	Jul 2017	#141
Well, when you breach a UN Security Council resolution, there's going to be a response.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#142
The Republicans just don't want any opening up of relations with Iran	Kentonio	Jul 2017	#236
Not really since he voted for the bill before the Republicans added the Iran sanctions.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#97
Certainly won't help him in his run for president.	MrsCoffee	Jul 2017	#92
Not this again. I read Bernie has a hammer and sickle tattoo on his ass!	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#98
Here's an interesting question	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#123
Trump was going to sanction Iran anyway	Tavarious Jackson	Jul 2017	#128
That makes even more problematic	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#132
I'm not into loyalty or purity test unless...	Tavarious Jackson	Jul 2017	#188
Exactly, so that makes his vote even more curious.	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#162
Because the New McCarthyism is total bull shit	autorank	Jul 2017	#126
Why is he one of the few who voted against the Magnitsky act?	continentalop2	Jul 2017	#147
WAIT, WHAT THE FUCK, he did?	Eliot Rosewater	Jul 2017	#148
Nay	Brother Buzz	Jul 2017	#152
You are wrong	Eliot Rosewater	Jul 2017	#156
Maxine Waters voted nay as well. Are you saying she's "friendly" with Putin too?	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#159
She is for them now after the Russians attacked our elections.	Demsrule86	Jul 2017	#240
He you go H.R 6156	Demsrule86	Jul 2017	#239
Wow, just looked that up. Good reminder.	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#149
Do you mean like	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#154
WAIT, WHAT THE FUCK, Carl Levin and Maxine Waters did too? And Barbara Lee?	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#157
Shocking isn't it?	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#160
Whatever his "reasons" may be, I don't like it.	NurseJackie	Jul 2017	#150
That's nice.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#158
:-D	NurseJackie	Jul 2017	#161
Lockheed MArtin is a big employer in VT and sanctions related to missiles aren't	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#163
So using your 'logic' he should have joined his colleagues and voted for the Iraq war.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#166
You previously accused me of something strange and had a post hidden. Please disengage.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#167
Didn't you just imply the senator was beholden to the defense industry?	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#169
'Please disengage'	melman	Jul 2017	#192
...	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#199
I've never heard of Lockheed Martin being a major employer in Vermont.	tammywammy	Jul 2017	#170
The aerospace industry does employ Vermonters but it's not the state's largest industry.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#171
Here's two lists I found.	tammywammy	Jul 2017	#172
I don't know where that poster got the idea that LM is a "big employer" in Vermont.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#174
Here you go:	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#173
F-35s are going to be stationed with the Vermont National Guard in Burlington.	tammywammy	Jul 2017	#175
Bernie himself said it was hundreds of jobs:	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#178
Sandia tests solar panels in Vermont, it has nothing to do with defense contracts.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#183
Let's take a step back	tammywammy	Jul 2017	#185
I'm not upset with Sanders for the f-35. It's hundreds of jobs, like he said.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#187
Why do you keep saying Lockheed Martin is a big employer in Vermont?	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#189
I'm not forgetting anything.	tammywammy	Jul 2017	#204
Article title: Lockheed taking cautious look at Iran helicopter market.	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#206
Yes, it's pretty easy to see that Sandia is a subsidiary of Lockheed.	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#190
Between the Sandia lab and the f-35, Lockheed is a formidable presence in VT. Iran's markets were	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#191
Yes, and that is obviously recognized by Sanders. It's just a strange diversion to pretend	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#193
Every politician brings home the bacon. That's established politics.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#196
Yes, every politician wants their state to be competitive.	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#202
Bingo! Great link! Follow the money.	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#198
Neither of those articles prove your claim about Lockheed Martin.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#176
If that's the reason and the motivation... it's VERY disappointing.	NurseJackie	Jul 2017	#179
Well, as I noted below, Bernie promised hundreds of Vermont jobs from the f-35	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#182
Thanks for the links.	NurseJackie	Jul 2017	#184
Of course. I essentially agree with Sanders. The f-35 had to be built somewhere.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#194
Wait, what? Vermonters don't build F-35s. Where are you getting this information?	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#197
Vermont doesn't build the F-35	tammywammy	Jul 2017	#201
But Sanders promised hundreds of jobs with the Lockheed research center and the F35	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#205
Please read my post 185	tammywammy	Jul 2017	#209
I'm not sure why you are arguing with me. I think Sanders securing the f-35, Sandia, and Lockheed	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#211
"Learning to love Sandia" That's a subtitle of an article about the Sandia labs	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#216
I'm old enough to get the Dr. Strangelove reference	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#218
lol.....	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#223
I lulz'd	KG	Jul 2017	#164
Don't laugh, they're trying so hard to convince us.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#177
Sanders is consistently friendly to dictators...	Expecting Rain	Jul 2017	#168
I have no words to express how I feel about that.	NurseJackie	Jul 2017	#181
He called Chavez a "dead communist dictator" last year.	VermontKevin	Jul 2017	#186
That's new information for me... I hadn't heard that.	NurseJackie	Jul 2017	#200
I honestly have no clue	Warpy	Jul 2017	#207
Actually he explained and SURPRISE! It has nothing to do with being "friendly" to Putin.	beam me up scottie	Jul 2017	#210
Thanks. I hadn't read his reasoning. It's sound.	Warpy	Jul 2017	#221
It was a lopsided vote, 98-2 in the Senate. It's not "wild speculation" to	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#222
Yeah, that's it	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#228
419 to 3, a bipartisan show against Trump	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#230
The question is	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#231
Welcome to DU....	R B Garr	Jul 2017	#232
Thank you.	GaryCnf	Jul 2017	#233
I think you are delusional if you actually believe Sanders is "friendly" to Putin.	PufPuf23	Jul 2017	#208
Bernie is not against samctions on Russia	louis c	Jul 2017	#214
Sanders Statement on New Iran, North Korea, Russia Sanctions	OKIsItJustMe	Jul 2017	#220
Excellent research, thank you!	Rhiannon12866	Jul 2017	#234
Maybe it has something to do with the solar eclipse?	aidbo	Jul 2017	#227
You have no reason to imply that he's friendly to Putin.	Ken Burch	Jul 2017	#235
Lol, hilarious and wrong. Your insinuations make the baby Jesus cry	Arazi	Jul 2017	#250
K&R	stonecutter357	Aug 2017	#255

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