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In reply to the discussion: I posted some things two years ago about Kamala Harris that were I shouldn't have. [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)or otherwise tell me what I think and what my motives are...
yeah, yeah, been there, got it, yep, yep. Uh huh. Yep.
Okay, real quick:
The problem with the thread from pwnmom is the instant, knee-jerk, reflexive idea that criticism of Obama, Senator Warren's statement there, well, ding! racism! She edited it out, so she knew it was over the line. But it was where she immediately went.
Thing is, Elizabeth Warren is not a racist. I don't think she is. I don't for a second think her statement was coming from anywhere close to that place. So why is there a reflexive response- to Senator Warren, for fuck's sake- along those lines?
Same thing with the Schumer post. It is LUDICROUS to assert that Sen. Schumer has some "problem with powerful women" regarding Hillary. He was one of her first endorsements. So it's fucking ridiculous to say. But the poster immediately went there anyway, because that is the defacto response to ANY criticism, say, of Hillary's campaign, from some quarters. Oh, misogyny, obviously!
The problem with that- and I have no doubt that you will tell me in a full page essay what the "problem" is with me having the temerity to point out this problem, whee, herewego - is that it means there can be NO criticism whatsoever, say, of any actions Hillary took in her campaign, no way to learn, no way to do better. Misogyny and racism are real, but ascribing them to every piece of opinion or data you don't like diminishes arguments against the actual phenomenon.
Which, as near as I can tell, is what is being done to the OP, too.
Elsewhere on DU there is a poster saying "we can't run a woman for president ever again", essentially, because "America wont vote for one". Okay, to my ears, that's one of the most misogynistic ideas I've heard expressed on this board; that we should disqualify over half the population from the job. But if one accepts that Hillary's campaign was simply the epitiome of political precision, she was saintly in her overqualified perfection and only robbed of her rightful victory because of misogyny, nothing else, there can never be any room for improvement-- well, this is where that logic leads, isn't it?
The rest, whatever. I said something you didn't like and I didn't say the things you think I ought to say. Ma nishtanah halailah hazeh mikol haleilot?