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In reply to the discussion: I posted some things two years ago about Kamala Harris that were I shouldn't have. [View all]NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)190. Nope. That's not what you did at all.
Here it is. Here's what you did to. You tried to justify your hard-left "push" by comparing it to the struggles of AA/POC, women, and LGBT. The political "struggle" of the fringe-left doesn't compare, Ken. There's NO comparison. Stop it. It's offensive.
155. If the strategy you're talking about had been used by the black freedom movement
All that would've happened by now is that the drinking fountains would be desegregated on Tuesdays and Thursdays, with religious exemptions for the fountains at Bob Jones University.
They pushed for big change the whole time. So did labor, when unions were actually winning. So did feminists. So does the LGBTQ rights movement. All compromised, but none let go of the transformative vision-at least not when those movements were actually effective.
We have to push for big change to get ANY change-especially since next to nobody on the Right is ever willing to compromise(the GOP senators that joined our senators in defying Trump on healthcare did so only because of mass pressure from below.
Small changes, tiny increments, rarely if ever make any meaningful difference in anyone's lives.
All that would've happened by now is that the drinking fountains would be desegregated on Tuesdays and Thursdays, with religious exemptions for the fountains at Bob Jones University.
They pushed for big change the whole time. So did labor, when unions were actually winning. So did feminists. So does the LGBTQ rights movement. All compromised, but none let go of the transformative vision-at least not when those movements were actually effective.
We have to push for big change to get ANY change-especially since next to nobody on the Right is ever willing to compromise(the GOP senators that joined our senators in defying Trump on healthcare did so only because of mass pressure from below.
Small changes, tiny increments, rarely if ever make any meaningful difference in anyone's lives.
Actually, that last sentence you wrote is wrong too.
182. I did not compare white leftists to oppressed communities.
Yes you did.
All I said was that the causes I listed all had a radical, transformational vision. I praise those movements for that.
No, that's not what you did.
And my "cause" is a better world for all-I'm not fighting for white men AGAINST everybody else.
That's nice.
As part of it, I'm antiracist, pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ and pro-woman.
That's nice.
It's not white supremacist to be a radical. Nor is it selfish.
Yawn. Nobody said that. Nobody accused you of that. NOBODY. Why bother to bring it up? It serves no good purpose to defend yourself against fabricated accusations that were never made in the first place. Why do it? Edit history
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I posted some things two years ago about Kamala Harris that were I shouldn't have. [View all]
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
OP
A progressive is someone who does the work, advances the ball, doesn't mind getting
LuvLoogie
Aug 2017
#1
Thank you for making a factual and realistic observation and plainly stating the truth.
NurseJackie
Aug 2017
#104
You already trashed Kamala as a hawk- with no evidence for that. You fucked up and showed your
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#119
You've proved you're willing to baselessly trash Dems and spread lies about them, so you're words
bettyellen
Aug 2017
#124
Actually I don't think many did. I try my best to be antiracist. so I can't speak for racists.
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#14
"Again...how is it racist to say that race matters less than what you believe on the issues?"
sheshe2
Aug 2017
#75
It illustrates we often hold others to a much higher standard than we hold ourselves to.
LanternWaste
Aug 2017
#17
There is rarely, if ever, simply one, rather than many points available at any given time.
LanternWaste
Aug 2017
#21
In the interest of honest discourse, what I see in your negative comments of two years ago and...
stevenleser
Aug 2017
#20
Is every progressive obligated to give unquestioning support to ALL Democratic officials
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#24
You are extremely invested in trying to get people to accept your constant criticism of democrats.
boston bean
Aug 2017
#39
You asked. All you do is criticize democrats andd then when other democrats disagree, you whine like
boston bean
Aug 2017
#42
I campaigned for the ticket all fall. I wrote an OP enthisiatically endorsing HRC before Philly.
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#44
I don't focus on "criticizing Democrats". I have criticized some at times, but so what?
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#48
People say heated things in a campaign season. And I've apologized for what I said,
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#146
My post about Perez was about the fact that he was being used as the stop-Keith candidate.
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#123
My suggestion, which you'll ignore, is that you stop posting about Kamala Harris.
yardwork
Aug 2017
#41
Ok...I said some respectfully critical things. I also posted an OP congratulating him when he won.
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#46
what, I don't get blamed for random shit other people say all the time? Yes, I do.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2017
#81
If someone said something so bad about Schumer and Warren, why not link directly?
betsuni
Aug 2017
#83
Okay, speed-reading through the parts where you put words in my mouth
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2017
#100
I read links. I wouldn't know you were linking to yourself if I hadn't at least bothered a little.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2017
#186
I would also like to say that the post he links to in one of my OP's was a comment/response and was
boston bean
Aug 2017
#112
You follow that comment thread, it's impossible not to conclude it's directed at Schumer.
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2017
#135
It wasn't calling him a sexist.. as you so imply with your direct link to a comment implying that.
boston bean
Aug 2017
#137
No, that's not what I'm implying. But the post in question? Clearly aimed at Schumer
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2017
#138
"the most wonderful and perfectly blameless overqualified candidate for president in human history"
betsuni
Aug 2017
#111
Your lack of strong feelings about a woman you claimed was being anointed 3 years out for POTUS...
Hekate
Aug 2017
#78
Yeah, it's over 80 degrees inside my house and it's 1:00 am. High humidity from some monsoonal...
Hekate
Aug 2017
#98
Others here have already explained it much better than I could ever hope to...
NurseJackie
Aug 2017
#125
The most progressive thing to do is always to take the most progressive stands on the issues
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#128
That's just not very realistic. All these hard-left absolutes are a mistake.
NurseJackie
Aug 2017
#133
If the strategy you're talking about had been used by the black freedom movement
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#155
I didn't say Manchin was the governor. That's why I put the punctuation there.
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#157
Doesn't matter. A true progressive would be OPPOSED to him losing his Senate seat...
NurseJackie
Aug 2017
#168
By the way, it's a BIG mistake to try and liken your "revolution" to AA and LGBT struggles.
NurseJackie
Aug 2017
#158
You're comparing this "revolution" thing to the struggles of AA's POC and LGBT citizens. It's not.
NurseJackie
Aug 2017
#163
Nothing in my post implied that white left activists were an oppressed group.
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#173