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Sun Aug 6, 2017, 05:47 PM

10. the proper frame of this issue is- who decides?

if you dont think women should have the autonomy to decide, then who?

if you are going to pass laws making it illegal, that means the government decides.
when you carve out exemptions for rape and incest, then law enforcement decides.
when you make a carve out for the life and health of the fetus or the mother, then doctors decide.

and when you go back to back alley abortions, it requires someone to decide to break the law, for motives both noble and coarse.

back in the day, women who wanted an abortion could appeal to (male, of course) doctors. in some cases it was one on one, and liberal. in some cases there were panels of doctors. (death panels, really, considering the stakes.) and many of those panels were just opposed in principle, and rarely said yes.

it is one of those things where the only logical thing to do is to draw the line at zero. the woman decides. for a million individual reasons that no fair law can anticipate.

and for the record, i have 5 kids, not all planned. tho i chose to carry those babies, knowing that i was in control of that choice meant i was a free person and not a slave.
every one was a risk of my life. every one left scars on my body. every one disturbed my metabolism and health, in some ways permanently.
that is a heavy burden to bear at someone else's insistence. that is slavery.

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