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In reply to the discussion: Was there a third atomic bomb? [View all]NutmegYankee
(16,204 posts)30. The fight over an island the size of 10 Washington DC's cost about that many lives.
Many of those also women and children. Now image that spread across the home islands of Japan. BLOODBATH.
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Climate change and nuclear energy are intimately connected. If we abandon nuclear energy...
NNadir
Aug 2017
#42
Bullshit. This tiresome crap was clearly insane 20 years ago, but as things are now, it's worse.
NNadir
Aug 2017
#55
A blockade however, could have been both efficient and effective as per Tsuyoshi Hasegawa
LanternWaste
Aug 2017
#73
And yet somehow causing the deaths of children through induced famine is a morally superior
Marengo
Aug 2017
#104
Robert Oppenheimer wanted a test in the Pacific with Japanese emissaries as witnesses.
roamer65
Aug 2017
#12
That is not even remotely true. Only a small subset of Manhattan Project scientists, not...
NNadir
Aug 2017
#44
Oppenheimer was a very complex and deep man, Truman less so, but in my opinion...
NNadir
Aug 2017
#52
They were surrounded and beaten. Not like they were going to attack us at that point.
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#61
I'll trust scholars like H Zinn. Truthfully, I think it had a lot to do with we were bombing Asians
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#70
Ha. What do you call rationalizing the destruction of 150,000 innocent women and children?
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#95
Forced to do? At that point, Japan was about as much a threat to us as Vietnam and Iraq.
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#97
The Japanese were holding an estimated 125,000 prisoners when they surrendered.
Kentonio
Aug 2017
#99
What about the thousands of innocents dying every day in Japanese occupied countries
hack89
Aug 2017
#100
Would we not have used a nuke on Germany if any were available prior to the surrender?
Marengo
Aug 2017
#106
According to General Groves, President Roosevelt expressed a desire to do so shortly before Yalta.
Marengo
Aug 2017
#110
So it's OK for Roosevelt to have a desire, but you won't accept the Japanese were beaten
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#113
Apparently you don't understand. According to General Groves, FDR, being alarmed by the German...
Marengo
Aug 2017
#117
I understand completely. People who are into guns are also into nuking people like Japanese women
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#118
That doesn't answer any of my questions to you, how about you try again? In your own words...
Marengo
Aug 2017
#119
And yet the tonnage of the aerial bombs US forces dropped on Germany was far greater than Japan
Marengo
Aug 2017
#111
3.4 million Japanese military personnel in the occupied territories at the time of surrender.
Marengo
Aug 2017
#107
Approximately 3.4 million Japanese military personnel in the occupied territories at the time...
Marengo
Aug 2017
#67
I'm arguing we had the most destructive weapon ever and were itching to use it. Just like
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#69
Those who arguably suffered the most from Japanese aggression, the Chinese, have little...
Marengo
Aug 2017
#71
200,000 largely civilians - many of whom were children, killed or injured directly by the bomb
Ms. Toad
Aug 2017
#27
The fight over an island the size of 10 Washington DC's cost about that many lives.
NutmegYankee
Aug 2017
#30
My reference to monsters refers to the national downplaying of Japan to it's wartime atrocities.
NutmegYankee
Aug 2017
#33
My point is, you are minimizing, and dehumaninzing the damage we chose to inflict.
Ms. Toad
Aug 2017
#34
We go berserk every time some country wants a nuke, yet we are the only country vile
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#11
We darn sure would not have invaded Iraq and butchered thousands if they had nukes.
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#16
Christ, sounds like you -- like Trump -- are promoting war. Sorry, I'd call it another Iraq, but NK
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#78
Iraq had no military or WMD's. That's why bush invaded Iraq and why countries like NK want nukes.
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#83
Geez, my small state has an air force bigger than that. And not a one of the few planes Iraq had,
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#89
You say 'obviously' but they actually came much closer to being used than people think.
Kentonio
Aug 2017
#94