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In reply to the discussion: Was there a third atomic bomb? [View all]NNadir
(33,582 posts)43. Neither program was even remotely close to success. n/t
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Climate change and nuclear energy are intimately connected. If we abandon nuclear energy...
NNadir
Aug 2017
#42
Bullshit. This tiresome crap was clearly insane 20 years ago, but as things are now, it's worse.
NNadir
Aug 2017
#55
A blockade however, could have been both efficient and effective as per Tsuyoshi Hasegawa
LanternWaste
Aug 2017
#73
And yet somehow causing the deaths of children through induced famine is a morally superior
Marengo
Aug 2017
#104
Robert Oppenheimer wanted a test in the Pacific with Japanese emissaries as witnesses.
roamer65
Aug 2017
#12
That is not even remotely true. Only a small subset of Manhattan Project scientists, not...
NNadir
Aug 2017
#44
Oppenheimer was a very complex and deep man, Truman less so, but in my opinion...
NNadir
Aug 2017
#52
They were surrounded and beaten. Not like they were going to attack us at that point.
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#61
I'll trust scholars like H Zinn. Truthfully, I think it had a lot to do with we were bombing Asians
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#70
Ha. What do you call rationalizing the destruction of 150,000 innocent women and children?
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#95
Forced to do? At that point, Japan was about as much a threat to us as Vietnam and Iraq.
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#97
The Japanese were holding an estimated 125,000 prisoners when they surrendered.
Kentonio
Aug 2017
#99
What about the thousands of innocents dying every day in Japanese occupied countries
hack89
Aug 2017
#100
Would we not have used a nuke on Germany if any were available prior to the surrender?
Marengo
Aug 2017
#106
According to General Groves, President Roosevelt expressed a desire to do so shortly before Yalta.
Marengo
Aug 2017
#110
So it's OK for Roosevelt to have a desire, but you won't accept the Japanese were beaten
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#113
Apparently you don't understand. According to General Groves, FDR, being alarmed by the German...
Marengo
Aug 2017
#117
I understand completely. People who are into guns are also into nuking people like Japanese women
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#118
That doesn't answer any of my questions to you, how about you try again? In your own words...
Marengo
Aug 2017
#119
And yet the tonnage of the aerial bombs US forces dropped on Germany was far greater than Japan
Marengo
Aug 2017
#111
3.4 million Japanese military personnel in the occupied territories at the time of surrender.
Marengo
Aug 2017
#107
Approximately 3.4 million Japanese military personnel in the occupied territories at the time...
Marengo
Aug 2017
#67
I'm arguing we had the most destructive weapon ever and were itching to use it. Just like
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#69
Those who arguably suffered the most from Japanese aggression, the Chinese, have little...
Marengo
Aug 2017
#71
200,000 largely civilians - many of whom were children, killed or injured directly by the bomb
Ms. Toad
Aug 2017
#27
The fight over an island the size of 10 Washington DC's cost about that many lives.
NutmegYankee
Aug 2017
#30
My reference to monsters refers to the national downplaying of Japan to it's wartime atrocities.
NutmegYankee
Aug 2017
#33
My point is, you are minimizing, and dehumaninzing the damage we chose to inflict.
Ms. Toad
Aug 2017
#34
We go berserk every time some country wants a nuke, yet we are the only country vile
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#11
We darn sure would not have invaded Iraq and butchered thousands if they had nukes.
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#16
Christ, sounds like you -- like Trump -- are promoting war. Sorry, I'd call it another Iraq, but NK
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#78
Iraq had no military or WMD's. That's why bush invaded Iraq and why countries like NK want nukes.
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#83
Geez, my small state has an air force bigger than that. And not a one of the few planes Iraq had,
Hoyt
Aug 2017
#89
You say 'obviously' but they actually came much closer to being used than people think.
Kentonio
Aug 2017
#94