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Alice11111

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Thu Aug 10, 2017, 12:19 PM

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This is a brilliant take from a poster at The Atlantic [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 OP

Sounds reasonable to me. n/t tazkcmo Aug 2017 #1

Well, China does play the long game and logically this fits. Good find. The Wielding Truth Aug 2017 #2

Yes Alice11111 Aug 2017 #16

You are spot on about the long game. BobTheSubgenius Aug 2017 #23

Don't be overly impressed with China. Lucky Luciano Aug 2017 #26

Are you reading in the financial press that China is going gangbusters in Africa? A HERETIC I AM Aug 2017 #40

They sure do, always have. Blue_true Aug 2017 #43

And, of course, you can't just blame Trump for TPP. jpljr77 Aug 2017 #3

Pulling out completely is far more damaging than changing some aspects..... ashredux Aug 2017 #13

Remember when Trump lied and said TPP helped China ? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #14

DT thought China was a member of the TPP. Alice11111 Aug 2017 #18

TPP was a boon for China, as they were not going to join. Effectively undercutting TPP nations. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #17

The way I see and understand it, all of what you said will eventually bite them on the ass A HERETIC I AM Aug 2017 #41

They are decades away from that, as they amass a couple million square miles of cropland. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #52

They still have banks A HERETIC I AM Aug 2017 #53

Well, I work for a bank moving heavily in China, and they are seeing a solid future. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #54

Let's hope it continues for you and your bank then A HERETIC I AM Aug 2017 #55

Correct. I was with Obama on that one. Alice11111 Aug 2017 #20

Poster is correct but fails to mention why Trump is doing what he's doing Moral Compass Aug 2017 #4

Trump wants to press that FIRE button so bad. forgotmylogin Aug 2017 #10

Mueller won't stop. Blue_true Aug 2017 #44

Didn't say that I thought the distractions will work Moral Compass Aug 2017 #56

Well, one thing is definite. Trump created this problem by using overly friendly overtures with Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #5

Thank you! h2ebits Aug 2017 #8

The Silk Road is real. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #15

I'm not so sure zipplewrath Aug 2017 #6

I think the author is suggesting that repudiating TPP is but one example of Trump being a clown. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #9

The last thing China wants is a flood of North Korean refugees across their border hunter Aug 2017 #11

Business, totalitarianism, and hegemony. AKA: Modern Feudalism, minus the chivalry. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #21

I totally agree. Blue_true Aug 2017 #46

What exactly in the TPP would have allowed the US to strongarm China into acting against NK? aikoaiko Aug 2017 #7

Trade trigger points. Blue_true Aug 2017 #47

I'd just like to remind everyone that it was Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #12

I did not know this mcar Aug 2017 #33

China has become decidedly less repressive than Russia. Blue_true Aug 2017 #49

I spent 4 months in China Studying Richard D Aug 2017 #19

That's going out to my email list keithbvadu2 Aug 2017 #29

I worked in an opera house Italy that was built in 1792 fierywoman Aug 2017 #30

When China restricts trade with us bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #22

Then we have nothing to worry about because they can't do that stevenleser Aug 2017 #34

If Trump nukes NK? bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #35

Nope, they will protest loudly and then watch as their container vessels sail off for stevenleser Aug 2017 #37

Steve, we became a great country by growing internally. Blue_true Aug 2017 #50

K & R! Mountain Mule Aug 2017 #24

I learned early on that Obama's reason for the TPP was to "keep China in check"... he was right. secondwind Aug 2017 #25

Insightful ... K &R JHan Aug 2017 #27

This post is mostly wrong starting with . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #28

That is not close to being correct. You are remembering the one leaked paragraph out of a massive stevenleser Aug 2017 #36

Look over your own link and then tell me its "primary purpose" is about China . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #38

Can I give you a source that defends this statement? Absolutely. President Obama stevenleser Aug 2017 #57

Hey Steve - When it comes to trade policy . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #61

I see irony DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2017 #42

That probably is mostly true Progressive dog Aug 2017 #31

It would not surprise me to find out if China (maybe even with the Russians helping them) was doing cstanleytech Aug 2017 #32

TPP got the same short shrift treatment the ACA got. n/t SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2017 #39

K&R Scurrilous Aug 2017 #45

I read that China is already intervening, as is Canada. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #48

We don't need the TPP to nudge China. Begin sanctioning their products LittleBlue Aug 2017 #51

As far as China and Russia (Putin) are concerned... Raster Aug 2017 #58

perhaps... Javaman Aug 2017 #59

I believe China can swoop in and effect regime change whenever they want to. Nitram Aug 2017 #60

China understand the value of Mutual Benefit Cooperative Agreements, American see only Greed Civic Justice Jun 2018 #63

You overestimate the generosity and altruism of the Chinese. Nitram Jun 2018 #64

Chinese are working their butts off, and they promote individual entrepreneurship Civic Justice Jun 2018 #62