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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)

34. You're right that it's not fully settled. There are always gray areas.

Reply to Stonepounder (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:33 AM

Aug 2017

Beauharnais concerned primarily libel rather than imminent danger, but in each of those areas, it's no surprise that there are 5-4 decisions (like Beauharnais itself).

BTW, Beauharnais was decided more than 60 years ago. The overall trend since then has been toward stronger protection for free speech. I'll hazard a guess that, if the same facts came up today, the statute would be invalidated.

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Strafgesetzbuch Section 86a - Important reason why it exists. Time for the US to wake up. [View all] Pachamama Aug 2017 OP

Very nice 10,000th leftstreet Aug 2017 #1

What happened bdamomma Aug 2017 #2

I agree with you. Maven Aug 2017 #3

I expressed this same sentiment here the other day stopbush Aug 2017 #4

i get huffy bora13 Aug 2017 #23

I agree -- it is AT BEST incitement obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #5

A brief lecture on the First Amendment Jim Lane Aug 2017 #7

I read not one word of that -- I neither want nor need your lecture obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #8

Uh, just whom do you think I was patronizing? Jim Lane Aug 2017 #10

+1 onenote Aug 2017 #11

I'm not completely satisfied that this is truly a settled question. Stonepounder Aug 2017 #17

You're right that it's not fully settled. There are always gray areas. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #34

I read it. Chellee Aug 2017 #22

Well I am over the first amendment then. Tumbulu Aug 2017 #24

Let me suggest a broader view of the history of the First Amendment. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #35

It really does not matter what I think about it Tumbulu Aug 2017 #37

I agree with you leanforward Aug 2017 #6

Excellent 10,000 Post burrowowl Aug 2017 #9

Great post. Thanks for the info. oasis Aug 2017 #12

When Hitler said "we lost the war; but shall win the peace," sandensea Aug 2017 #13

Please provide a source for that quote. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #27

I am Germany right now... a la izquierda Aug 2017 #14

And we are equally puzzled, but witnessing a phenomenon: lambchopp59 Aug 2017 #30

It seems to me that is has been going on for three decades Tumbulu Aug 2017 #38

Congrats and thank you for your 10,000th post! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #15

Here is the problem with that approach marylandblue Aug 2017 #16

Section 86a does not ban specific symbols outright Lithos Aug 2017 #19

And yet far right white nationalist parties have more electoral success Germany than in the US funflower Aug 2017 #18

That's because we don't have a 2-party system in Germany Ezior Aug 2017 #36

Bless you and your family, and congrats on 10,000th post SWBTATTReg Aug 2017 #20

K&R... spanone Aug 2017 #21

I've long argued that this country needs a serious discussion about destructive propaganda Oak2004 Aug 2017 #25

Agree! Thanks for posting ! Tumbulu Aug 2017 #40

"I believe the US Congress should pass a law that bans these symbols and salutes from being used" PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #26

This situation raises some really difficult questions. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #28

Agree! Tumbulu Aug 2017 #41

I sure agree with you about how very fast things in this country have gotten worse. PatrickforO Aug 2017 #29

WHISIS lambchopp59 Aug 2017 #31

There is a legal maxim: marybourg Aug 2017 #32

We can pass laws all day long Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #33

Thank you for making this your 10,000th post. MineralMan Aug 2017 #39