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BainsBane

(53,151 posts)
12. We did have an election driven by the grassroots
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:08 PM
Aug 2017

Last edited Thu Aug 24, 2017, 03:04 PM - Edit history (1)

It was the Clinton campaign. Hers was the one campaign that spent the bulk of its resources on organizing the grass roots, on voter registration and turnout efforts. Others spent enormous amounts of money on corporate ad buys. That's not grass roots. Just because people have money to fill campaign coffers and fund PACs doesn't make them more "grassroots" than those who make phone calls and knock on doors.

Turner choose to work against grassroots Democrats and put Trump in office, and she has doubled down on her commitment to keeping him there. Two days after the GOP passed a bill deregulating banking, she gave them cover by making a speech insisting Democrats were worse on Wall Street. Trump, the GOP, and the big banks thank her for her tireless efforts on their behalf.

Note, she has also pledged to endorse Republicans. She repeatedly shows greater contempt toward Democrats than toward corporations, banks, or the Nazis. Trump's election was a victory for her and those like her, and they are determined to extend their success by getting more Republicans elected, by continuing to trash the Democratic Party AND its 67 million voters.

Long life the tyranny of donuts and water.


..I.....cant....even....... samnsara Aug 2017 #1
...sigh? I think these people regard the Republicans Hortensis Aug 2017 #93
So they're the Club for Growth, Green Party Edition. Scoopster Aug 2017 #2
So still not liking coalitions? bettyellen Aug 2017 #3
No. I think Our Revolution's motto is: Cooperation is Icky. Squinch Aug 2017 #60
I love you more every day. bettyellen Aug 2017 #71
Back atcha, dear! Squinch Aug 2017 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #4
Why can't people wrap their heads around the fact Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #5
Because that would actually require some effort and thought. nycbos Aug 2017 #8
Because, unfortunately, tribalism ain't just for right-wingers Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #11
In Alabama, that line of thinking led to us nominating Richard Shelby for the U.S. Senate. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #64
Somebody is trying to copy Jill Stein. DetlefK Aug 2017 #6
Oh, you got it obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #90
I was at the Mass Dem Convention and saw the "Our Revolution crowd" nycbos Aug 2017 #7
Lol. Imo, they aren't really racist, but are oblivious radius777 Aug 2017 #26
Excatly nycbos Aug 2017 #34
Exactly. They are ruthlessly self-ish, though. Hortensis Aug 2017 #96
Just out of curiosity, what were their numbers like? Squinch Aug 2017 #61
It was a pretty decent amount and they weren't all assholes. nycbos Aug 2017 #84
Thanks. Squinch Aug 2017 #86
Oh, FFS.... Squinch Aug 2017 #9
While top tier Democrats feverishly battle Trumpism, they'll soon find oasis Aug 2017 #10
We did have an election driven by the grassroots BainsBane Aug 2017 #12
+infinity ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #18
What Bains said. Squinch Aug 2017 #62
Are Nina Turner and Our Revolution protected from criticism by the TOS? Expecting Rain Aug 2017 #13
No Nina Turner is no longer a Democrat...she is as best we can tell a Green. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #16
As best I can tell, you're completely wrong Jim Lane Aug 2017 #24
She'd do a better job fighting within the Democratic Party if she'd stayed in the Democratic Party. brooklynite Aug 2017 #25
Has she changed her registration? Has she endorsed the Greens? Jim Lane Aug 2017 #32
I put two links on this thread...she says she will edorse the person not the party...she would even Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #36
Goddamn. She was my Rep when I moved to Ohio madinmaryland Aug 2017 #42
Below is a more recent article. She is not a Democrat anymore...but something else...I think she is Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #35
Great article. nt oasis Aug 2017 #39
Thanks...only a person who does not support Democrats would find Nina and her merry band of Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #54
Thanks for providing links that disprove your own post Jim Lane Aug 2017 #41
She's still a Dem, but insists on ideas over party ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #47
That's true. She probably wouldn't support an anti-choice Democrat. (n/t) Jim Lane Aug 2017 #48
I voted for Tim Ryan who up until recently was anti-choice. You see I am a Democrat...and I vote for Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #55
She is running a new party Our revolution which will endorse anyone who Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #104
Really? Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #53
Yeah, really. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #69
Strawman on fire!!!!!!! Goalposts on the move!!!! Squinch Aug 2017 #77
My improvement for the Democratic Party begins after we get rid of Trump...what Turner will do is Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #81
I cannot tell you how sick I am of people using their votes and voices to proclaim their Squinch Aug 2017 #56
Poor, irrelevant Nina. lapucelle Aug 2017 #14
Screw you Turner...I am sure the GOP are funding your traitor Greens organization. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #15
I wish these assholes would just stop already. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #17
Sounds like she should change her name to Nina Teaparty DFW Aug 2017 #19
Nina Turncoat. oasis Aug 2017 #20
Someone tell me how this is any different than Rush Limbaugh's Operation Chaos! maxrandb Aug 2017 #21
Obviously, once is not enough for Nina and the Revolution. They will never learn. haveahart Aug 2017 #22
Nina Turner is a god-damned fool. nt Blue_true Aug 2017 #23
Truer Words Were Never Spoken Me. Aug 2017 #29
I'm getting sick and tired of this phony crap! R B Garr Aug 2017 #27
You mean Nina Turner who shit all over Hillary and helped people not support/vote for her? TeamPooka Aug 2017 #28
The Very One Me. Aug 2017 #30
Good luck with mine: I didn't use it, so I sold it for some good cheesecake and an advance politicat Aug 2017 #31
The advice to progressives, distilled from this thread. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #33
She is primarying sitting Democrats when the GOP has all the power...and she also says she will pick Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #37
You equate "primarying sitting Democrats" with "Naderism" -- which is totally absurd. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #46
You should not run a super liberal in a state like WVA...you will merely cost Democrats the seat... Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #49
I emotionally agree with you, but not intellectually. GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #66
Those are legitimate considerations. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #70
I am a proud liberal member of the Democratic Party GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #72
The thing I dislike most about this sort of argument is the obvious lack of interest in winning... Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #106
Well said...nt GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #146
Thanks...these folks act as if they get the primary they want or a certain candidate and we know Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #156
challenge from the left would help Manchin, imho DeminPennswoods Aug 2017 #78
Nope, it will weaken him. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #108
You are just wrong GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #147
+1 stranger81 Aug 2017 #67
+2 LittleBlue Aug 2017 #105
If you have nothing useful to say, I certainly recommend description #3. NNadir Aug 2017 #152
I don't find it interesting...I despise all Trump enablers and that includes Turner whom I am Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #38
Check out the People's Platform oberliner Aug 2017 #40
Their platform is meaningless to me because they will cost Democrats elections. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #50
exactly. treestar Aug 2017 #83
We had abortion coverage in health insurance (ACA) until Turner and her sort Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #51
That right there. They don't seem to be getting that point. Squinch Aug 2017 #57
Since I disagree with the first two GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #74
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2017 #43
...and the horse she rode in on. stevenleser Aug 2017 #44
I despise that woman NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #45
Trump is minutes away from starting WWIII and Nina wants to give him more power? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #52
Never underestimate the vanity of the purist. Squinch Aug 2017 #58
Yes, vanity and . . . peggysue2 Aug 2017 #92
This is my favorite post in a long, long time. Squinch Aug 2017 #127
Thank you, sir. peggysue2 Aug 2017 #128
I'm a ma'am, but no, thank YOU! Squinch Aug 2017 #129
Oops! peggysue2 Aug 2017 #134
No problem! Squinch Aug 2017 #135
Great post...and so true. I am sick of the 'list' tossed around here...the candidate must... Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #139
Lol. More like the irrational righteousness of extremists. Hortensis Aug 2017 #94
Nina, are you threatening us like donald Drumpf does? In that case, you mfcorey1 Aug 2017 #59
She said "SOME Democrats have lost their souls", not "Democrats" collctively. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #63
Our Revolution is a 501(c)(4). "Citizens United" decision. Not required to disclose its Donors. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #109
That is irrelevant. Nina used phraseology I might not have used, Ken Burch Aug 2017 #119
First, don't put words in my mouth, as that is not how you and I discuss things emulatorloo Aug 2017 #121
I've never defended Jeff Weaver. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #136
Thanks for the reply, We agree a lot more than we disagree emulatorloo Aug 2017 #162
Perhaps it would help if we put a condition on large donations Ken Burch Aug 2017 #163
You need money to run Ken...I would love a perfect world where the damned Greens did not Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #140
The money can only be justified if we actually get elected. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #148
Money doesn't always get you elected...however, it gives you a shot. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #154
I hadn't heard there was talk about primarying Sherrod. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #158
While that might work during presidential years, it won't during mid-terms. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #159
I don't think Sherrod should be primaried. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #160
She is a problem and could cost us safe seats. She is bitter and angry and doesn't concern herself Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #161
Nina Turner works for Jill Stein who is a Putin Troll JI7 Aug 2017 #65
Would you happen to have a link for your assertion about Turner? Jim Lane Aug 2017 #68
Turner is an opportunist who knows radius777 Aug 2017 #75
Is this the same Nina Turner GoCubsGo Aug 2017 #88
That's her...and she shit on Hillary during the general and has continued to shit on Democrats. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #141
What is the fantasy world Nina lives in ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #73
This is exactly how big money and the religious right moved the Reublicans so far to the right. mjvpi Aug 2017 #126
No she is not...she will cause Democratic losses...The GOP had one issue...health care which always Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #142
Our revolution members make up the majority of my local party new members dembotoz Aug 2017 #79
My condolences to you and to our party when we lose the next election and to our country when Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #80
Don't know where u hang out. Opposite true here dembotoz Aug 2017 #82
I hang out in Ohio...and when Nina said she would not support Sherrod Brown who will have Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #85
In Wisconsin dembotoz Aug 2017 #89
Great news...what Feingold couldn't elected in your state? And you and the gang think a more Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #91
And who won in the presidential race in your state? MineralMan Aug 2017 #95
actually my county was one of 2 in the state who increase hrc turnout over obama dembotoz Aug 2017 #98
And, yet, Trump won Wisconsin. MineralMan Aug 2017 #99
if you want a discussion about what hrc did wrong in my state the mods will shut this down fast dembotoz Aug 2017 #100
The point is you have had a GOP governor who surivived impeachment and won re-election, Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #115
Excuse me we have run centrist candidates and look how fucking well it worked dembotoz Aug 2017 #137
who are your referring to? No if Feingold couldn't get elected, you should Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #143
Barrett and burke dembotoz Aug 2017 #150
They were candidates for governor...Barrett in 10 Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #151
See nothing rational in ur comments dembotoz Aug 2017 #157
Big deal...she still lost Wisconsin...so how would a more liberal our revolution approved candidate Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #110
see my reponse directly above dembotoz Aug 2017 #113
I doubt mods give a shit, as they've heard all the insta pundit-class narratives before emulatorloo Sep 2017 #164
Lol. "Ignore them and dis then at your peril"? Hortensis Aug 2017 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #102
More threats...hey we get it... some are hinting that they helped take down Hillary by not voting Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #111
Why does support of these people always have to include a threat? Hmmmm? Squinch Aug 2017 #155
If they want the "mainstream" Democrats to support their issues ... dawg Aug 2017 #87
The course you recommend is exactly what most of us followed. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #101
I will not support their issues...if they win primaries they may be setting up a loss in the general Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #103
It has to go both ways. dawg Aug 2017 #116
The worry is they win primaries which tend to bring out the more liberal voters and lose the Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #118
I think the primaries are a pretty good gauge of who will do best in the general. dawg Aug 2017 #120
No, they are not...different voters turn out for primaries...the most liberal for Dems and the most Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #144
Nina Turner is batshit insane... Hard pass Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #107
Exactly...have to wonder who is funding them? Koch may? Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #112
Solid blue districts is precisely where primaries make the most sense Jim Lane Aug 2017 #138
The purpose of elections is to win...when we waste money on already blue seats...we Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #145
The purpose of elections is to get better government. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #149
Well, your methods will weaken Democrats and get better Republican government . You Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #153
Slogan's Run DFW Aug 2017 #114
Great post...'corporate Democrats' has always been a BS slogan with no meaning. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #117
With all that DT is doing, why is Our Revolution devoting itself to dividing & attacking DEMOCRATS? pnwmom Aug 2017 #122
Pride. Vanity. Contempt. Revenge. (Pick one.) NurseJackie Aug 2017 #131
I can think of another reason but I'll leave you to guess it. pnwmom Aug 2017 #132
Well, of course! That was was just too obvious. It's a "given" and not worth saying... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #133
This is exactly how the conservatives drove the agenda to the right during my lifetime. mjvpi Aug 2017 #123
Yes, she is. ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #124
Fuck her and her religion. 6000eliot Aug 2017 #125
Sheesh! More smearing and denigrating of Democrats! (So what else is new?) NurseJackie Aug 2017 #130
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