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In reply to the discussion: By Our Revolutions head says, Democrats have lost their souls. She will make them find religion. [View all]emulatorloo
(44,336 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:11 PM - Edit history (5)
I did not say Our Revolution is a "front."
I just wanted to remind folks that Our Revolution is a 501(c)(4). Which is a categorization that came from the Supreme Court's "Citizens United" decision. I have to take that into account when I evaluate rhetoric coming from the head of a 501(c)(4), which is not required to disclose information on donors.
Campaign finance reform is one of the top goals of every DU'er.
Secondly I get tired of reading 'analysis' of Open Secrets data which ignores that these "corporate donations" are actually donations from >folks< who work there. Despite the explanation by OpenSecrets on every page.
Is Bernie in the pocket of Kaiser Permante and Microsoft? Of course not. Their PACs gave nothing, their employees did. Is it hard to imagine that liberals/progressives work at Microsoft, and that these individuals would donate to Bernie? No.
"How would YOU describe those Dems who continue to defend the policy of actively seeking corporate donors?"
Who are these Dems exactly? Which Democratic politicians or party spokespersons are saying that?
"Why keep seeking those when the November result(which was the worst showing we could possibly have made)shows that they don't help us?"
A reminder of what post 2016 election analysis showed:
---Trump voters top concerns were terrorism and or immigration
-- Clinton voters top concerns were the economy and jobs
--Clinton won voters whose household incomes were 50k or less
--Trump won voters whose household incomes were 70k or more
-- "Economic Anxiety" is not why Trump won
-- the majority of "Obama to Trump voters" were Republicans who voted for Obama in 2008 because of Bush disaster
As to Ms. Turner, I do not believe she will last long as the head of Our Revolution. She's a terrible spokesperson.
You already know my opinion of Jeff Weaver and how I believe his rhetoric as campaign manager undercut Bernie's chances. He spent too much time on hard red-meat rhetoric but did little or nothing to broaden Bernie's base beyond the hard core.
Nina replaced Jeff as the head of Our Revolution but IMHO is just reproducing Weaver's rhetorical failures.
Her statement about Our Revolution possibly endorsing Republican and Libertarians is a case in point. There are no real world Libertarians or Republicans who share the goals and values of Our Revolution.
To me Nina needlessly shot herself in the foot, and worse yet discredited Our Revolution.