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PatrickforO

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3. Well, having just read the ruling, it seems there is little cause for smugness on
Sun Aug 27, 2017, 03:51 PM
Aug 2017

the part of Wasserman-Schultz or the HRC campaign. It was thrown out on several technicalities that do not speak to the validity or veracity of the allegations.

Doesn't matter anyway, because 2016 is water under the bridge.

The salient points we need to be looking at are:
1. Why, when HRC won by nearly 3 million votes, is Trump in the WH?
2. Why do we still have the electoral college in the face of this? (note: http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/ is the solution here)
3. Why have we not put a national 'fight tooth-and-nail' strategy in place for the voter suppression tactics being used across the nation by Republican controlled legislatures? Obama and Holder are leading this charge, but see the thinkprogress post below for details.
4. How can we ensure the results of the 2020 Census preclude gerrymandering? Well, according to the article here: https://thinkprogress.org/democrats-may-already-be-blowing-the-2020-redistricting-fight-d7edf43703ac/, there is a way, but if they don't do it right, Republicans will still be in control.

As a Bernie supporter, I have my own feelings about what happened in 2016, but now we have to concentrate on winning subsequent elections. This isn't helpful.

In addition to the anti-suppression measures in 3. and 4. above, I also strongly suggest when speaking to groups of Democrats in my own state, that we learn to MUCH more effectively talk about kitchen table issues. Independent voters, who outnumber both Dem and Republican rolls, don't care as much about the standard Dem talking points as all that.

What DO they care about? Kitchen table issues.

1. I'm scared I'm going to lose my job. Which candidate/party can best a) keep that from happening, or b) help me if it does happen.
2. It sucks that my kids have to take out so many loans for college. Why isn't college more affordable, and how would we pay for that?
3. I destroyed my car's alignment today when I hit a pothole. Why in the hell doesn't my state have enough money to fix the roads?
4. I'm in my mid-fifties. What happens if Social Security is privatized?
5. What happens if the government voucherizes Medicare?

During the last primary, we fought each other about the relative merits of social versus economic justice, but economic issues are kitchen table issues.

Do we want to lose elections, or start winning them. We need a two part strategy (get rid of gerrymandering and speak to kitchen table issues) in order to win. That's all I'm saying.

So, this document is OK, but again, I don't think any Democrat ought to be either smug or outraged until we begin to win. Right now we need to focus with single minded intensity on that, and honestly, I'm getting pretty worried because we keep choosing ineffective national and state strategies.

We are THIS close to becoming a fascist dictatorship and having to endure civil war and we need to change tack pretty fucking fast. I'd say that TRUMPS everything, if you'll pardon the pun.

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