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George II

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95. The quote is accurate as it stands, no context necessary and no spin put on it at all. As for...

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:16 PM

Sep 2017

...the source, it was Senator Sanders who said it.

I only looked up demonstrably to give you the definition in case you didn't know it, I've known the definition for decades, thank you.

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Sen. Bernie Sanders: ending DACA "one of the ugliest and cruelest decisions ever made" [View all] beam me up scottie Sep 2017 OP

WTG Bernie and all the other politicians fighting this LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #1

Yes! We need to be united now more than ever. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #2

Right on the money. pangaia Sep 2017 #3

Exactly! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #4

Go Bernie! Lordquinton Sep 2017 #5

There's a reason cofounder of the Dream Action Coalition Cesar Vargas trusts Bernie. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #7

Thanks Bernie. fallout87 Sep 2017 #6

Yes and to all those radical noodle Sep 2017 #10

Hillary has also spoken up about murielm99 Sep 2017 #12

Yes, and Chelsea has as well radical noodle Sep 2017 #13

Sanders encouraged his supporters to vote for Hillary and the vast majority of us did. white_wolf Sep 2017 #28

Of course he did, we knew who the real enemy is. So yes, thanks Bernie! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #40

Indeed we did, but I must disagree with you on one point. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #79

This Lordquinton Sep 2017 #87

This, so much this Boomer Sep 2017 #123

+1 lunamagica Sep 2017 #35

no proof that that happened at all karynnj Sep 2017 #102

very well said! renate Sep 2017 #115

+1000, Exactly. R B Garr Sep 2017 #107

Love Bernie! zentrum Sep 2017 #8

Indeed! Here he is on the Senate floor in 2013 speaking for Dreamers: beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #11

Here he is in 2007 repeating a false story about immigrants taking lifeguard jobs. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #14

You mean Bush's bill? The one the SPLC likened to slavery? beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #15

The Kennedy-McCain bill did not spread a false story that immigrants were taking lifeguard jobs. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #20

Still slavery, still immoral. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #23

You can keep ignorimg Bernie's own words, but I won't. nt SunSeeker Sep 2017 #25

You do that while I stand behind the co-sponsor of the DREAM act. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #29

How is QUOTING someome discrediting them? SunSeeker Sep 2017 #32

Agree. zentrum Sep 2017 #33

This is exactly what the GOP wants us to do, discredit our own before the fight. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #34

Yes--these zentrum Sep 2017 #56

That's exactly what they are. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #58

Yup. zentrum Sep 2017 #68

What are you talking about, BMUS! virtualobserver Sep 2017 #59

Lol! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #60

They are playing political games with people's lives. virtualobserver Sep 2017 #66

Indeed they are. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #69

I'm a disciple of the philosopher Pollyanna..... virtualobserver Sep 2017 #78

And whenever things are especially bad for Trump, the shit-stirring here QC Sep 2017 #121

Ted Kennedy proposed an immoral bill? Was he for slavery? lunamagica Sep 2017 #45

I dunno, the SPLC and League of United Latin American Citizens thought it was like slavery. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #46

Oh. so you think he DID want to pass an immoral bill and was for slavery lunamagica Sep 2017 #48

He had good reasons to support it and others had good reasons to oppose it. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #50

If the immigration bill had passed, there'd be no need for the DREAM act lunamagica Sep 2017 #51

The SPLC, LULAC and Bernie all had good reasons to oppose it. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #53

Well, well well, How about this? LULAC Urges Congress to Support Bipartisan Immigration Plan lunamagica Sep 2017 #61

That was the 2005 bill, it appears they changed their mind in 2007. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #62

Here is the portion of the bill related to workers. Where is the slavery? lunamagica Sep 2017 #63

I refer you back to the statements from the SPLC and LULAC. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #64

Can't you read and think for yourself? lunamagica Sep 2017 #65

I'm not an immigration expert, I trust the SPLC and LULAC. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #67

His vote was not about protecting migrant workers lunamagica Sep 2017 #71

I'm sure snowman3 from Dkos is nice and all, but again, I'll have to defer to the SPLC and LULAC. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #72

Oh. I see you can't find any reference to Sanders voting out of concern for the migrant workers in lunamagica Sep 2017 #73

That's snowman3's opinion, that doesn't make it the truth. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #74

Then show me where he said it lunamagica Sep 2017 #75

It's up to you to prove your allegation, it's not my job to disprove it. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #76

My allegation? You are the one alleging that he voted out of concern for immigrants lunamagica Sep 2017 #77

Here's a quote from an interview by Lou Dobbs that someone else posted earlier: George II Sep 2017 #86

Very convincing Lordquinton Sep 2017 #89

No, no, and no... George II Sep 2017 #90

Are you serious? Lordquinton Sep 2017 #92

As serious as the post I responded to. George II Sep 2017 #93

Oh, so you were serious... Lordquinton Sep 2017 #94

The quote is accurate as it stands, no context necessary and no spin put on it at all. As for... George II Sep 2017 #95

No, no and still no Lordquinton Sep 2017 #98

I provided the definition before you used that word. Who knows, it's possible (not likely)..... George II Sep 2017 #99

No, it's not Lordquinton Sep 2017 #113

Actually, anyone keeping up on this thread would have seen that I sourced the quote.... George II Sep 2017 #116

And back where we started from Lordquinton Sep 2017 #118

I assume that you're no longer doubting that Sanders said that to Lou Dobbs? George II Sep 2017 #119

lol, maybe next you'll be asked to prove there is something called CNN. R B Garr Sep 2017 #120

Or prove that there really IS a God? George II Sep 2017 #122

Yes, you used it correctly. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #106

What does any of that have to do with the discussion at hand? George II Sep 2017 #112

Excellent examples Lordquinton Sep 2017 #117

Yes, I saw that in the Lou Dobbs interview that is resurfacing now because of R B Garr Sep 2017 #109

That's an exact quote, and it starts at about the 3:30 mark in the 5:15 video. nt R B Garr Sep 2017 #114

Why are you posting the 2005 version Lordquinton Sep 2017 #88

Was that question directed to me? There have been so many responses that the lines leading... George II Sep 2017 #97

Well, that certainly shut Vox down. SMC22307 Sep 2017 #21

Thanks. Barbara Boxer also agreed with Bernie: beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #26

How does that "shut Vox down"? Did Vox misquote Bernie? SunSeeker Sep 2017 #30

Some people can't reach climax unless they can attack Bernie. DRoseDARs Sep 2017 #22

Right? We should support the co-sponsor of the DREAM act now. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #24

What amazed me most about the attacks on him was the misogyny... DRoseDARs Sep 2017 #38

it is more than a misguided need to defend hc questionseverything Sep 2017 #101

! A-Schwarzenegger Sep 2017 #70

Slavery might be a bit strong. How about indentured servitude? QC Sep 2017 #82

I guess we all have our priorities. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #104

Correct. If that bill had passed, the DREAMers would be permanent residents or even citizens lunamagica Sep 2017 #36

He voted the DREAM act of 2007. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #39

No. I'm talking about the Kennedy-McCain bill, and you know that lunamagica Sep 2017 #41

If only Bush's bill hadn't created slaves out of immigrant workers. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #43

Here's what SEIU Eliseo Medina said said about the importance of passing the legislation at the time lunamagica Sep 2017 #47

You're linking to Hillary's primary website? No thanks. I still side with the SPLC and LULAC. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #49

What does it matter where the link came from? It is true, or do you think they made it up? lunamagica Sep 2017 #52

See post #49. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #54

It had a path for citizenship! Don't you get that? lunamagica Sep 2017 #57

See post #105. George II Sep 2017 #125

Each one of those yellow underlines is a link directly to the original source. Posting the... George II Sep 2017 #105

Wrong. That was a cloture motion. The bill never got a vote, thanks to anti-amnesty hysteria. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #44

They're coming to take the lifeguard jobs Progressive dog Sep 2017 #81

Those 52 Senators didn't vote for the DREAM Act. From your link, this is what they voted for: George II Sep 2017 #100

The resorts here in Florida are full of foreign "guest workers" QC Sep 2017 #83

J1 visas are for "cultural exchange," not cheap labor. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #85

Well, that's our preznit in a nutshell. SergeStorms Sep 2017 #9

And BIGOTED. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #17

Get it done! world wide wally Sep 2017 #16

The fight will be on the floor and it will be fierce. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #19

Thank you, Bernie! mvd Sep 2017 #18

Of course he is! Now is the time to stand with Bernie. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #31

What I admired about Bernie -he's so damn smart! George Eliot Sep 2017 #27

Agreed! And he's on the front lines against Trump! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #42

DURec leftstreet Sep 2017 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Sep 2017 #55

Donald Trump is a cruel ugly man. His one goal in life is to hurt those he despises. Autumn Sep 2017 #80

K&R demmiblue Sep 2017 #84

You're right of course. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #91

Well said, Bernie Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #96

Indeed he does! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #108

Well, it didn't take Bernie to figure that out. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #103

And it's all out of spite for the previous president. Initech Sep 2017 #110

EXACTLY. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #111

It's freaking sad that people can't get on the same page to fight for these kids LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #124