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13. Seems the only perceived difference between debate and analysis anymore...

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Wed Sep 6, 2017, 10:58 AM

Sep 2017

Seems the only perceived difference between debate and analysis anymore is simply whose sacred cow is being examined.

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Sanders brushes off Clinton criticism: 'Look forward and not backward' [View all] Donkees Sep 2017 OP

DURec leftstreet Sep 2017 #1

That gesture is familiar... beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #121

CLASS n/t GaryCnf Sep 2017 #2

Wise man. Know when hold 'em, knows went fold 'em. Knows truth from fiction. haveahart Sep 2017 #3

seems like something a leader would say. nt geek tragedy Sep 2017 #4

Excellent Bernie. Thank you..n/t monmouth4 Sep 2017 #5

"President Trump" HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #6

Boom, like that! Heartstrings Sep 2017 #7

K&R n/t Greybnk48 Sep 2017 #8

Absolutely right...we need to focus on 2018... WoonTars Sep 2017 #9

And not a moment of self reflection. Control-Z Sep 2017 #10

Maybe he'll write a book n/t leftstreet Sep 2017 #12

That would be a good idea if Control-Z Sep 2017 #18

So being honest melman Sep 2017 #33

No. Control-Z Sep 2017 #68

Stop stirring the pot. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #150

Interesting. chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #71

About the only two things I personally consider questionable on his part cstanleytech Sep 2017 #79

I can speak to the last one Lordquinton Sep 2017 #88

The poster's mind is already made up. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2017 #102

A lot of times when I'm replying Lordquinton Sep 2017 #164

And there you go....and bernie supporters wonder why Hillary supporters want to be heard all american girl Sep 2017 #178

Oh, yeah, the vast majority of Super-delegates had all but declared their votes for her. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2017 #181

Refusing to show his tax returns. Saying he was too busy, or that he had to look for them, but he lunamagica Sep 2017 #106

Huh? HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #146

I'm answering a post asking about Sander's questionable behavior lunamagica Sep 2017 #149

There seems to be some sort of self imposed amnesia about this. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #208

That trip to the Vatican brush Sep 2017 #118

Not taking the bait. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #148

My reply was to comment #18. chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #169

To end this ridiculous, increasingly hostile back and forth debate. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #189

Oh Gods no! MuseRider Sep 2017 #61

Ouch. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #103

+1, he looks back plenty when it benefits him. R B Garr Sep 2017 #14

That has never really Control-Z Sep 2017 #23

Yeah, always liked how Hillary was to blame for Bernie's votes and Bill's all american girl Sep 2017 #40

Look forward.. melanctha Sep 2017 #75

Boom-drop the mic all american girl Sep 2017 #96

Fascinating. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #126

so, are you saying that she never got blamed for the crime bill, that bernie voted for, and she all american girl Sep 2017 #128

I'm saying the notion Bernie Sanders cost Hillary Clinton the election is laughably imbecilic. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #197

so I guess calling her unqualified all american girl Sep 2017 #201

Yup LoveMyCali Sep 2017 #115

So she's works her ass off, and tens of millions of Americans aren't allowed a choice? Kentonio Sep 2017 #170

Millions chose her, she won more votes in the party than someone else. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #171

When we talk about a coronation we're talking about the first half of the primary. Kentonio Sep 2017 #172

👍🏼 My feelings as well. Thank you for the post. dae Sep 2017 #180

Dead on. Ligyron Sep 2017 #188

yes shanny Sep 2017 #193

Yes, how interesting how specific one's talk actually is, when the ONLY demand for a Ninsianna Sep 2017 #207

Interesting attempt at wiping out history and replacing it with your own fictional version. Kentonio Sep 2017 #209

Ok. She had worked. That doesn't mean Ken Burch Sep 2017 #175

Perhaps he could be publicly flogged until he begs for forgiveness? trotsky Sep 2017 #15

I notice you completely overlooked Control-Z Sep 2017 #16

The point you were making is that you think Bernie needs to do penance. trotsky Sep 2017 #39

But he tried to take something that was rightfully hers! QC Sep 2017 #53

That's what I'm seeing. chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #72

he tried to take something that was rightfully hers! YOU ARE 1000% CORRECT. Selfish old bugger trueblue2007 Sep 2017 #82

Why was it rightfully hers? Bernie took nothing from her, she won the primary. Autumn Sep 2017 #138

something she was entitled to! it was hers! shanny Sep 2017 #192

That's what it appears to come down to, yes. n/t trotsky Sep 2017 #93

Yeah, no one ever said that but the bernie supporters all american girl Sep 2017 #98

We all knew that was a pipe dream, but the great thing that happened by PatrickforO Sep 2017 #168

I don't want him to do anything except join the Democratic Party or refrain from commenting on it, Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #135

"our revolution"? trotsky Sep 2017 #183

An organization that evolved from the Sanders candidacy. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #186

Oh I thought you meant a revolution in the Democratic establishment. trotsky Sep 2017 #187

The point you are trying to make applies more so to Clinton mythology Sep 2017 #73

The email server in question was ex-president Bill's. She started using it since it was there... brush Sep 2017 #124

Problem is...how do we do anything about that right now, in the minority in Congress Ken Burch Sep 2017 #174

A permanent, well-funded DNC committee that hires good legal help to take repug cheaters to court, brush Sep 2017 #184

Can't fault him for campaigning during a primary Roland99 Sep 2017 #27

No, but why did he go and completely trash her rep... all american girl Sep 2017 #46

+1. I completely agree. Neither Hillary nor us will be silenced lunamagica Sep 2017 #108

Not anymore...learned the lesson the hard way, but not going back all american girl Sep 2017 #110

Did he lose Wisconsin for her? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #125

Bill was telling her to go to Wisconsin, dae Sep 2017 #191

To some, he's damned if he looks back, damned if he doesn't. thesquanderer Sep 2017 #64

Good points. klook Sep 2017 #176

No shit. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #11

Seems the only perceived difference between debate and analysis anymore... LanternWaste Sep 2017 #13

Considering the recent issue with DACA and it being possibly tied to a wall. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #17

Don't know if you're trolling or not ... Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2017 #105

He voted no with Republicans, blocking a pathway to citizenship. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #117

I know why he voted no on the bill. He couldn't wait to go to the Lou Dobbs show and say why, lunamagica Sep 2017 #155

You are so right about this! When he was on the Dobbs show, he and dobbs were like two lunamagica Sep 2017 #111

lol stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #19

Sanders should have also looked forward during the elections and done more Perseus Sep 2017 #20

Thank you. NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #32

I'd like to also offer sincere thanks for this post. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #37

Sanders DID have a heavy schedule of campaigning in the Fall karynnj Sep 2017 #44

But DownriverDem Sep 2017 #52

His supporters included Democrats and independents - including some libertarian leaning karynnj Sep 2017 #69

That's the supporters fault RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #87

Thank you so much, you made me want to cry. all american girl Sep 2017 #47

I want to thank you too lunamagica Sep 2017 #113

Thank you. This is very well said Justice Sep 2017 #161

just out of curiosity, shanny Sep 2017 #195

Stirring the Ole Shit Pot.... Cryptoad Sep 2017 #21

This Is What Class Looks Like... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #22

Heh, I wouldn't want to look back either if I were him. Amimnoch Sep 2017 #24

Fair point JustAnotherGen Sep 2017 #54

Excellent point. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #58

No, it's not just you. I agree lunamagica Sep 2017 #114

I agree. nt brer cat Sep 2017 #142

Yup. Here's Sanders 3 days (3 DAYS!!!) before the election. Maven Sep 2017 #157

Yep. I'm tired of hearing about how supportive he was of Hillary. Thank you n/t kcr Sep 2017 #190

Bernie, I wish you would get Our Revolution to focus on the GOP. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #25

I think they are going to, in a negative way. Nina Turner is on record stating.... George II Sep 2017 #30

Gah! SunSeeker Sep 2017 #51

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #66

Nina Turner shouldn't do Debbie Wasserman Schultz impressions. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #74

come on...under impossible conditions. No republican we've seen in years passes the litmus test. JCanete Sep 2017 #94

Hey, she's the one who said it, not me: George II Sep 2017 #97

yeah, if that republican believes in medicare for all. You want to get hung up on letters or the JCanete Sep 2017 #109

She didn't qualify it with "and the Democratic candidate doesn't..." How many republicans.... George II Sep 2017 #112

she gave no reason to assume that should both candidates support something like that, they JCanete Sep 2017 #116

You're reading a lot into what she said. George II Sep 2017 #120

for you to assume they would do it differently is strange to me. Why would they endorse the JCanete Sep 2017 #122

Well, sir, why not read the entire interview. You'll get a the full gist of what she was saying. George II Sep 2017 #127

Exactly, she totally meant that as a club. Didn't she even say Democrats have R B Garr Sep 2017 #119

Yes she did, and she said even good progressive Democrats like Sherrod Brown would have to kiss her Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #200

Sen. Sanders recently said not believing in Medicare for All is not a 'deal breaker' so Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #185

problem is that is an anecdotal story. Is there corroboration for this or is JCanete Sep 2017 #203

When "forward" is the same as "backward" More_Cowbell Sep 2017 #26

I hope he does HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #154

I really like him janterry Sep 2017 #28

Thank you, Bernie. democrank Sep 2017 #29

A gracious response. Glad he is not taking the bait. SweetieD Sep 2017 #31

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This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #35

Are you bashing Clinton? Phentex Sep 2017 #38

I know.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #59

LOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL nini Sep 2017 #36

Thanks Again, Bernie... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #41

Riiiight. When it's Clinton and Dem Party at fault, look backward. Maven Sep 2017 #42

Tell Bernie DownriverDem Sep 2017 #49

Lol liquid diamond Sep 2017 #84

sure, there's a point there. But I think Sanders could easily field her criticism so JCanete Sep 2017 #95

Agree to a point DownriverDem Sep 2017 #43

"Get a win and then change the Dem Party" FiveGoodMen Sep 2017 #50

I call Bullshit Hyperbole on "suggesting change on this site gets alerted." emulatorloo Sep 2017 #56

How to change the Dem Party DownriverDem Sep 2017 #83

I hope that process proceeds quickly FiveGoodMen Sep 2017 #85

That happens in every primary and I NEVER saw the nominee attack like this karynnj Sep 2017 #65

Well said. KTM Sep 2017 #90

Agreed! Done! Forward! zentrum Sep 2017 #45

K&R.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #48

Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2017 #55

Bernie is a class act jb5150 Sep 2017 #57

Hey Bernie jrandom421 Sep 2017 #60

Haven't seen her book or review ... Wernothelpless Sep 2017 #62

Thank you, Bernie. TDale313 Sep 2017 #63

"When they go low we go high" SpicyBoi Sep 2017 #67

Classy and he's absolutely right. K&R nt riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #70

I don't understand the blaming of Hillary's loss on her primary opponent renate Sep 2017 #76

I think you misunderstood. She doesn't blame Sanders for losing, and Dems... Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #166

thank you so much for replying in such a nice way! renate Sep 2017 #198

I think everyone needs to calm down about the book. tammywammy Sep 2017 #204

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #206

I agree. I hate to see this. I'm hoping it'll pass before the 2018 mid-terms. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #205

that is hurple Sep 2017 #77

"Look Forward" .... Oh, the irony ...... Lil Missy Sep 2017 #78

Her emails.... liquid diamond Sep 2017 #86

Benghazi!! Benghazi!! Lil Missy Sep 2017 #132

Well said Justice Sep 2017 #162

Go Bernie! Lordquinton Sep 2017 #80

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Yes he did. He belonged in the race just as much as Clinton. white_wolf Sep 2017 #100

There's a reason people love Bernie perdita9 Sep 2017 #89

Yes! Our job is to go foreward and defeat Triump. Autumn Sep 2017 #91

class act Joe941 Sep 2017 #92

Gawd, I love Bernie. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2017 #99

I would have loved to hear him say that after the GE BainsBane Sep 2017 #101

My thoughts too katmondoo Sep 2017 #104

Me too. Maven Sep 2017 #133

I look forward to his retiring. DavidDvorkin Sep 2017 #107

You are not alone. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #136

!!! Maven Sep 2017 #153

Bernie! chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #123

Good job Bernie! PatsFan87 Sep 2017 #129

Basically, Sanders is busy STILL BEING RELEVENT and having a job in Washington DC to do. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #130

Hillary is STILL RELEVANT to millions of us. Maven Sep 2017 #134

Feelings and assumption mean nothing. She's a figurehead at this point. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #137

She's a thought leader in the party whether you like it or not. Maven Sep 2017 #147

K&R CentralMass Sep 2017 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #139

have you considered getting a metal detector? uppityperson Sep 2017 #140

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #177

he doesn't have time for this stuff SethH Sep 2017 #141

Yes, he is very busy promoting his book lunamagica Sep 2017 #156

Bingo. ucrdem Sep 2017 #158

This is what an adult leader does. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #143

Our job is to go forward Sunlei Sep 2017 #144

Good for him! n/t USALiberal Sep 2017 #145

That's my guy. Bernie showing his true class. #respect Arazi Sep 2017 #151

Makes it look easy, but it's harder than it looks. A-Schwarzenegger Sep 2017 #152

Good Advice. Paka Sep 2017 #159

Good on Bernie. That's good advice for anyone regardless of Still In Wisconsin Sep 2017 #160

Some say classy, but "moving forward" is easy Justice Sep 2017 #163

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #165

Beautifully said. Lazy Daisy Sep 2017 #167

He's right DFW Sep 2017 #173

There may be some validity to the blame... Orsino Sep 2017 #179

and the circular firing squad continues (referring to the comments in this thread). nt Javaman Sep 2017 #182

Yep hueymahl Sep 2017 #194

I'm really surprised Skinner et all are still allowing this BS. nt Javaman Sep 2017 #202

and, somewhat off topic, orleans Sep 2017 #196

Yep, yep. Iggo Sep 2017 #199