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71. Trump would sign it if they could get it to his desk

Fri Sep 8, 2017, 04:01 PM

Sep 2017

The man has no identifiable ideology. He believes in money, sex, and power. He is also addicted to winning.

If somehow this could get through the legislative meat grinder I'm confident he'd sign it.

I think in that little lizard brain of his he has started to realize that the Republican agenda is a loser with the country. He hates losing.

Look at the deal he struck with Pelosi and Schumer. He knew the other path was a long drawn out slog through the mud and that, in the end, he'd have to force Ryan and McConnell to capitulate to the Democrats.

I think the timing on this is good.

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All Those Who Stand with Sen. Sanders, Sen. Warren and Sen. Harris on Medicare For All [View all] berni_mccoy Sep 2017 OP

It's one thing to support single payer, but do you really think it is realistic to believe that StevieM Sep 2017 #1

Maybe, maybe not Poiuyt Sep 2017 #9

Well, he told them the replacement for the ACA would be PatrickforO Sep 2017 #25

Sure - it's a "WIN" for him. ihaveaquestion Sep 2017 #64

I've said it before...Trump could easily win in 2020 if he went this direction LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #66

He doesn't read what he signs IronLionZion Sep 2017 #68

They'd have to get some Repubs to vote for it, first. That's the biggest hurdle. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #84

Apparently Senators Sanders, Warren, and Harris do! Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #87

I seriously doubt any of those senators actually believes that Donald Trump will embrace StevieM Sep 2017 #94

I'm just wondering why there is this criticism of these Senators for standing up for something most Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #96

I don't know if you are referring to my post, or speaking generally, but if you re-read my post StevieM Sep 2017 #105

This is how we get the conversation moving. Warren, Sanders, and Harris understand that, I think. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #109

That's not even the point. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #126

Actually, it is the point. The OP said that he felt we could get Trump to sign it. StevieM Sep 2017 #127

OK. I agree that that's not realistic. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #130

Agreed. I just think we should also agree that Donald Trump is not looking to do anything StevieM Sep 2017 #131

Just political posturing. They don't have the numbers in Congress. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #2

Its only political posturing if they forget about it when it actually becomes possible. Posturing JCanete Sep 2017 #12

Hear, hear! AllyCat Sep 2017 #17

I believed that thinking to be wrong in the primaries and wrong now. We agree to disagree. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #33

So they should do nothing? zentrum Sep 2017 #48

They should organize on the grass roots level to turn out the vote in 2018 thereby creating the Trust Buster Sep 2017 #58

Perhaps Political Posturing is Proper BBG Sep 2017 #72

The other big difference zentrum Sep 2017 #75

You seem unaware zentrum Sep 2017 #76

Republicans will not agree with Medicare for all and they run the show. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #77

Gerrymander your Pragmatism BBG Sep 2017 #78

Really? Then why did Feingold and every Democrat running for Senate in 2016 in those critical swing still_one Sep 2017 #102

The majority of the country zentrum Sep 2017 #90

Yes but they have to do their job as Senators JonLP24 Sep 2017 #82

The idea, the cause zentrum Sep 2017 #91

Get out much? MFA is exactly how we are now organizing... countryjake Sep 2017 #95

It's good to have the bill and the votes ready for when we do IronLionZion Sep 2017 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #88

I support Democrats just fine. Pointing out that we don't have the political power in Congress Trust Buster Sep 2017 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #111

Not at all. I advocate improving living conditions in ways that are actually politically attainable. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #112

Its time to have a serious conversation about single payer. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #113

And I believe their time and energy could yield attainable results if they work on fixing the ACA. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #114

Many people believe that a statement of intent is merely posturing LanternWaste Sep 2017 #140

I support universal coverage but I need to know more about the transition plan tymorial Sep 2017 #3

It's easy. They make less (non) profit. AllyCat Sep 2017 #16

Hi. Those are legit concerns. I think there are a couple options mvd Sep 2017 #22

Yes, it's long overdue. Glorfindel Sep 2017 #4

Listen to the talk here Plucketeer Sep 2017 #27

Yes it is. That and guns, and..... pangaia Sep 2017 #31

The ACA is what we need to work...and then start with a public option; this sort or posturing will Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #83

I stand for reasonable, affordable Healthcare for all. democratisphere Sep 2017 #5

Yes. I do. I know its aspirational but it's a bold call for the future riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #6

"This is our best hope at achieving Universal Healthcare" Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #7

Yes, if not now, when? Time to stake out our position Arazi Sep 2017 #8

ME wholeheartedly! nt babylonsister Sep 2017 #10

Why the hell not? dchill Sep 2017 #11

Hell yes! MsLeopard Sep 2017 #13

I don't think Republicans want Americans to have decent health coverage... yuiyoshida Sep 2017 #14

Aye! AllyCat Sep 2017 #15

DURec leftstreet Sep 2017 #18

I think that is our only option going forward. Delmette2.0 Sep 2017 #19

YES...should have happened already! mudstump Sep 2017 #20

Tell you what. Name me Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #21

I'd post a video.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #35

Believing it is not politically possible to pass universal health care is not the same as Nitram Sep 2017 #45

Theres that litmus word again.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #60

You are a condescending fellow, aren't you. Nitram Sep 2017 #79

That comes from being so much smarter Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #124

I think I've met him too. If anyone can actually "meet" someone like that. Nitram Sep 2017 #132

I am FOR single payer.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #133

Classical is right. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #137

Here ya go.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #138

A little duck and side-step? Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #139

I'm with them! PatrickforO Sep 2017 #23

The banking system is very poorly understood. Ligyron Sep 2017 #89

Fuck yeah. DinahMoeHum Sep 2017 #24

It sounds good, Bernie, but........... leftofcool Sep 2017 #26

Don't forget not fooled Sep 2017 #106

Here here!!!! CloudsInMyCoffee Sep 2017 #28

K&R! Present! Rhiannon12866 Sep 2017 #29

K&R mvd Sep 2017 #30

It's a slogan, not a plan at the moment. comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #32

Huge K&R,, disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #34

I suppose, diillusioned, "acting like a Democrat" means agreeing with you on every policy position? Nitram Sep 2017 #46

No.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #57

So you have some miraculous power to know exactly what the perfect Democratic should always believe? Nitram Sep 2017 #80

You've gotta learn.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #134

K&R LongTomH Sep 2017 #36

** raises hand ** n/t CousinIT Sep 2017 #37

I personally love my Medicare plan. dottie66 Sep 2017 #38

Yes, and expanding Medicare is a far easier transition than repealing Obamacare and passing Nitram Sep 2017 #47

social issues are nice chaking53 Sep 2017 #39

Going to be lots of jobs in Florida. AtheistCrusader Sep 2017 #41

Hell to the yes. AtheistCrusader Sep 2017 #40

K&R. n/t ms liberty Sep 2017 #42

I stand with them but it just not that simple. Some changes will have to be made to Medicare and haveahart Sep 2017 #43

OH YEAH! Lazy Daisy Sep 2017 #44

Yes! Hun Joro Sep 2017 #49

Unrealistic and risks the ACA...so I do not support this bill it has no chance Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #50

I agree leftofcool Sep 2017 #74

Supporting this to the max! n/t RobertDevereaux Sep 2017 #51

I'm in, and have been since Teddy Kennedy Greybnk48 Sep 2017 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #53

thats an issue we all need to stand with no matter whos face is on it samnsara Sep 2017 #54

I protested for single payer in front of the WH back in 2007. So yeah. Again. And again. ancianita Sep 2017 #55

Hell yeah! tosh Sep 2017 #56

Here here... floWteiuQ Sep 2017 #59

yes DBoon Sep 2017 #61

Absolutely. Time to push and push and push for Universal Healthcare. GoneOffShore Sep 2017 #62

Damn right. area51 Sep 2017 #63

Here is Senator Warren's rationale for supporting . . FairWinds Sep 2017 #65

I'm for it. sinkingfeeling Sep 2017 #67

It's about time (past time, really) n/t dragonlady Sep 2017 #70

Trump would sign it if they could get it to his desk Moral Compass Sep 2017 #71

Yes - it's time we joined other industrialized nations. klook Sep 2017 #73

How about Universal Health Care in whatever form we can get it? ehrnst Sep 2017 #81

Did they sponsor a Medicare for all bill? nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #85

I STAND WITH SENATOR SANDERS, SENATOR HARRIS, AND SENATOR WARREN! Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #86

I stand with Medicare for all. I don't have to follow anyone to do that. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #92

This isn't a novel idea, a good one even back in the early 90's. arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #93

Standing for Medicare for All democrank Sep 2017 #97

Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2017 #98

You can definitely count me in! Mr. Evil Sep 2017 #99

It's the only way average Americans will be able to have health care workinclasszero Sep 2017 #100

Medicare is an insurance program, complete with premiums, deductables, and co-pays. ucrdem Sep 2017 #101

It sure isn't free, and a comprehensive supplemental, dental, and drug plan can cost 350 dollars or still_one Sep 2017 #103

The ACA doesn't need fixing. It needs replacing. ZX86 Sep 2017 #104

If the ACA goes the alternative for many will be death. ucrdem Sep 2017 #107

Millions upon millions of Americans are without health care right now under the ACA. ZX86 Sep 2017 #108

It might if it existed but it doesn't. What's on the table is "skinny repeal" ucrdem Sep 2017 #115

And therefore what? ZX86 Sep 2017 #116

Therefore joining in the call to replace the ACA endangers people's lives. ucrdem Sep 2017 #117

So Republicans decide the Democratic agenda? ZX86 Sep 2017 #118

No, but ripeness is all, and until there's a D in the oval office again ucrdem Sep 2017 #119

And by "the best we can hope for is to maintain the gains we've already made" ZX86 Sep 2017 #120

Yes, and for all that, it's achieving its purpose of making health care more affordable. ucrdem Sep 2017 #121

More affordable health care when millions upon millions have nothing is a failure. ZX86 Sep 2017 #122

It's not a failure to the people it helps. ucrdem Sep 2017 #123

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #135

Yup! krispos42 Sep 2017 #125

I am with you and with Sen. Sanders, Sen. Warren and Sen. Harris on Medicare For All. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #128

I have good employer insurance (and i'm even retired) but I'm all for Medicare for all blueinredohio Sep 2017 #129

Here. LWolf Sep 2017 #136