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39. Nah, poor whites voting for repugs whose policies work against their...

Sat Sep 9, 2017, 02:08 PM

Sep 2017

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pocketbooks and saying they're voting for their pocketbooks is whack.

Those echoing that talking point are in denial.

I mean come on, time after time poor whites vote for repugs and their pocketbook gets no fatter. You'd think they'd get wise to that. Maybe some of them even are but they'll still never admit that what they really voted for was to get the black guy out of the WH and replace him with a white guy, not a woman.

And get this, most of trump's other supporters averaged 72k in income so don't tell me they were voting

pocketbook issues.

They voted for the white guy who was going to make America white...er, ah...great again (dog whistle, dog whistle, dog whistle).

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So how exactly did things get THIS bad for Democrats? [View all] Calculating Sep 2017 OP

What differences did you see when you the party was strong? leftstreet Sep 2017 #1

Obama larry budwell Sep 2017 #3

While he did a good job as president NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #42

well said nt clu Sep 2017 #130

We used to be the party of American Workers FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #8

Exactly what jobs did trump bring back? still_one Sep 2017 #14

Oh none FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #16

Yep Lunabell Sep 2017 #31

That's it in a nutshell Plucketeer Sep 2017 #55

Slogans are easy NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #18

Slogans work FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #26

Truth. It's an intrical part of product branding and successful marketing. procon Sep 2017 #32

Lets not kid ourselves. Despite the hacking, vote tampering and everything else, HRC still won. hadEnuf Sep 2017 #41

I completely agree with you. However... chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #43

How did it not work? How could have anything worked under the circumstances? hadEnuf Sep 2017 #44

How did it not work? Seriously? chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #46

If we had a non-hackable, verifiable voting system then I'd consider Clinton had a bad message. hadEnuf Sep 2017 #137

It's been brought to my attention that the 2018 midterms are coming up... chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #140

I tend to agree with you NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #48

Yes, it was too close. Too close when it should not have been close at all. hadEnuf Sep 2017 #139

Hillary won, and she didn't win jmowreader Sep 2017 #56

I agree. white_wolf Sep 2017 #96

nice commentary clu Sep 2017 #103

Now hang on a minute jmowreader Sep 2017 #113

Not so. If they voted for their pocketbooks they wouldn't vote against their economic... brush Sep 2017 #33

Not so.. jimmil Sep 2017 #37

Nah, poor whites voting for repugs whose policies work against their... brush Sep 2017 #39

Yes but that was an extension of the economic realities. Drunken Irishman Sep 2017 #60

They still believed they were voting for their pocketbook FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #59

All that is well and good and sounds good, but IMO they voted even more to "make America... brush Sep 2017 #69

We are still the party of the American worker. It's the American worker who has strayed, especially jcmaine72 Sep 2017 #38

That answer just makes you feel better because you don't have to change FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #64

".... calling the voters racists". Exactly. It's like "fighters to your corners" AncientGeezer Sep 2017 #92

Trump is the one that attacked non white people and the majority whites that voted for him JI7 Sep 2017 #98

To give him credit? Good job? liquid diamond Sep 2017 #79

Yes, but he convinced a lot voters he was fighting for their jobs FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #93

Their support for trump exposes their bigotry. JI7 Sep 2017 #99

Senate and House leaders not from New York and San Francisco Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2017 #126

Too many people insist on fighting old intraparty battles, longship Sep 2017 #2

Or in extra-party battles. Many of us don't like or appreciate attacks from those on the outside. George II Sep 2017 #36

Do you mean the guy who has caucused with Democrats for decades? longship Sep 2017 #94

Perhaps I mean the person who considers the Democratic Party "ideologically bankrupt". George II Sep 2017 #104

Well, if one is going to argue for infighting, maybe we are ideologically bankrupt! nt longship Sep 2017 #105

He's not arguing in favor of infighting and you know it. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #107

One thing I will argue is that we unite or we lose. longship Sep 2017 #109

Tell that to ... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #111

PS: If you truly believed that... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #112

I stand by my post. longship Sep 2017 #114

Your insults and insinuations betray your confidence. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #115

Interesting response. nt longship Sep 2017 #116

As have been yours. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #117

I've made no personal attacks here. longship Sep 2017 #119

You've not insulted me. Only George... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #120

I will gladly apologize to George. longship Sep 2017 #121

You and Hillary are both correct. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #108

I apologize, George, if I have offended you. longship Sep 2017 #122

Thank you, I appreciate that. Yes, we're all in this together. Now let's nominate some kick-ass... George II Sep 2017 #123

:-D NurseJackie Sep 2017 #124

Do what's right. Right? longship Sep 2017 #125

+1 PDittie Sep 2017 #71

They're Not DarthDem Sep 2017 #4

it's bullshit bigtree Sep 2017 #5

Some people will always see the glass as half-empty SecularMotion Sep 2017 #6

What do you think we did during the Bush years? Phentex Sep 2017 #7

People fighting here are NOT the Democratic Party. frazzled Sep 2017 #9

It is complicated to lead a group with so many vast differences. Baitball Blogger Sep 2017 #10

In the real world, I'm not seeing this. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #11

Moldova, is that you?! BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #12

I've never been so proud of my party. Hamlette Sep 2017 #13

I understand why Bernie supporters are mad though Calculating Sep 2017 #15

"Hillary failed to extend much of an olive branch to them." That's total bullshit. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #34

Bravo! Thank you Nurse Jackie, Hamlette Sep 2017 #73

### NurseJackie Sep 2017 #118

i just read a bit about kaine clu Sep 2017 #110

On the ground, I am seeing the opposite. drray23 Sep 2017 #17

Other than the FBI interference, which did have an impact as shown by the polls, the media reporting still_one Sep 2017 #19

The worst part was when an otherwise great president decided that it would be a terrific idea StevieM Sep 2017 #61

there's that. Ligyron Sep 2017 #68

Third Wayers convincing Democrats to try to win over Republican voters instead of growing TeamPooka Sep 2017 #20

+1 leftstreet Sep 2017 #22

That's definitely part of it shanny Sep 2017 #23

We have to do that and more. brush Sep 2017 #35

+1 chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #45

Third Wayers don't exist. Drunken Irishman Sep 2017 #58

Sure they do. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #70

There is no Third Way. Drunken Irishman Sep 2017 #72

Yes, there IS a Third Way, and the links prove it. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #75

No. It. Does. Not. Drunken Irishman Sep 2017 #142

They are an actual official group of conservative DEMS run by Jonathan Cowan. m-lekktor Sep 2017 #131

Jonathan Cowan is not an elected official. Drunken Irishman Sep 2017 #143

Yes they do. m-lekktor Sep 2017 #129

None of those people are elected officials. Drunken Irishman Sep 2017 #144

No, it was Susan Sarandon and Molly Ringwald!!! Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #74

Bingo! dflprincess Sep 2017 #134

Yawn... Scurrilous Sep 2017 #21

Choice a. Be part of DEMS and help each other rise. Choice b. Demoralize. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #24

Ain't it the truth? Cary Sep 2017 #81

We've become fragmented within the Party. It's all about our own identity group. jalan48 Sep 2017 #25

The Democratic Party is as strong as its ever been oberliner Sep 2017 #27

Were you here after John Kerry's loss in 2004? Downtown Hound Sep 2017 #28

i dont feel weak or demoralized as a dem.. i never have... samnsara Sep 2017 #29

Whitelash. ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #30

The Democrats have won 6 out of the last 7 popular votes. athenasatanjesus Sep 2017 #40

That and 50 cents bought us the Fascism that now controls the country. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #136

BULLSHIT..... We're more determined than ever !!!! groundloop Sep 2017 #47

How Putin Played the Far Left TomCADem Sep 2017 #49

I think you partially answered your own question.. Volaris Sep 2017 #50

Corporate cash and hate radio. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #51

It's the O B S T R U C T I O N stupid ! Raggaemon Sep 2017 #52

What is demoralizing is that the dems have been playing by the rules, but the repugs have not... unitedwethrive Sep 2017 #53

Important to remember DU doesn't represent real world Democrats emulatorloo Sep 2017 #54

How old are you - ten? It's been far darker for the Democrats. Drunken Irishman Sep 2017 #57

I believe it was... Mike Nelson Sep 2017 #62

No way. Dems are doing GREAT. sharedvalues Sep 2017 #63

So true sarisataka Sep 2017 #90

young people are majority Dem G_j Sep 2017 #100

I believe it started when the GOP destroyed ACORN. (eom) StevieM Sep 2017 #65

You are watching the wrong people. They want you to feel depressed. I am not about to allow anyone haveahart Sep 2017 #66

Except then you don't know what's being pulled by who toward what. Ligyron Sep 2017 #78

And yet Trump has been able to get very little of what he wants. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #67

The Democratic Party dropped the ball and became complacent after 2008. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #76

Agreed Calculating Sep 2017 #89

Try living in Wisconsin jodymarie aimee Sep 2017 #77

The Koch boys funded what would become the DLC Warpy Sep 2017 #80

Fox News,talk radio,Kochsuckers,Heritage foundation,ALEC,gerrymandering,internet propaganda njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #82

yes, all of those plus Reagan killing the Fairness Doctrine Warpy Sep 2017 #83

I agree njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #84

Of course there is also massive voter suppression. njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #101

I Don't Get the DU's Rules Ccarmona Sep 2017 #85

Agree zentrum Sep 2017 #86

That's the situation the russian bots would like to to believe. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #87

Overconfidence sarisataka Sep 2017 #88

Dealing with self serving dividers, not uniters. democratisphere Sep 2017 #91

Wrong. What happened is Republicans took the vote away from millions of us. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #95

Lack of introspection... Baconator Sep 2017 #97

Ignoring statehouse races, getting gerrymandered out by not showing up in midterms..... ImpeachTheGOP Sep 2017 #102

We keep bringing knives to a gunfight njhoneybadger Sep 2017 #106

It is all an ingenious plan that started in 1980 with RR. The air traffic controllers doc03 Sep 2017 #127

nice howard zinn impression nt clu Sep 2017 #128

Had to google Howard Zinn never heard of him nt doc03 Sep 2017 #141

Neither Sanders nor Clinton are too old and too delisen Sep 2017 #132

Read "Listen, Liberal" by Thomas Frank. nt m-lekktor Sep 2017 #133

The republicans played a long game marlakay Sep 2017 #135

We focused on national elections and forgot about locals. Blue_true Sep 2017 #138