Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
36. That's very relevant.
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 02:51 PM
Sep 2017

We're smart and educated, here on DU. It's hard sometimes to realize how many people are neither of those things. For them, not having such documents or the knowledge needed to get them can be a huge stumbling block. It's going to get worse and worse for those people, frankly.

Voting is a huge issue, especially in states with Voter ID laws that are designed to deny the right to vote for just such people.

If you want a certified copy of your birth certificate, you need to know not only the city where your were born, but the county, as well, since such records are recorded by counties. Then, you have to know how to get a copy. In many cases, you get it from the state if you were born before some certain year, or the county if you were born after that year. Then, you have to get an application form, either online or by mail, fill it out and pay a fee for a certified copy of your birth certificate.

Some people have their original birth certificate. I do. Most people do not, and have to get a certified copy before they can get Real ID, a passport or whatever. Some people never had a birth certificate. Their birth was never recorded. That happens in many rural areas, particularly in some states.

For most of us who read DU, such things are not a problem. You can get the information you need by searching for it. For others, though, it can be impossible without help. One of the things local Democratic Party organizations should be doing is setting up local clearing houses to assist people with those problems and helping them to obtain the documents they need. There are people in every city, county and every state who cannot document themselves without help, and sometimes a lot of help.

This would be a good project for local colleges, I think. Offer credit for working to help people with documentation. Make it a requirement for degrees in the Social Sciences, Political Science, Education and some other majors to spend a semester working in a clearing house that does that. The knowledge learned would be useful to the students as well.

This is happening in PA too. TeamPooka Sep 2017 #1
Stupid move on the part of both states. MineralMan Sep 2017 #5
Also: renew passport as it expires or fierywoman Sep 2017 #2
Yah, it works OK if the old passport was issued less than 15 years ago. MineralMan Sep 2017 #7
Just to share: I renewed a few years ago (at this age, the years all blend together, fierywoman Sep 2017 #12
Ouch! GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #3
Yes. I'd do it sooner rather than later. There's going to be a rush MineralMan Sep 2017 #8
What the heck, you might as well go on a trip abroad now to make it worth your while! Tanuki Sep 2017 #4
Maybe we'll drive into Canada, just for the LULZ. MineralMan Sep 2017 #9
Brought to you by the party of small government and states' rights Major Nikon Sep 2017 #6
Most states complied with the Real ID thing. MineralMan Sep 2017 #10
It should never have became law to begin with Major Nikon Sep 2017 #13
Yep, do it before March dalton99a Sep 2017 #11
Yup. MineralMan Sep 2017 #16
I've never seen it take 6 weeks to get a passport Major Nikon Sep 2017 #17
Yeah. All of my previous passports have come within three weeks. MineralMan Sep 2017 #19
We renewed ours in December. Lifelong Protester Sep 2017 #14
Oh My Gosh, Arizona! What were you thinking? Sentath Sep 2017 #15
Get the passport. MineralMan Sep 2017 #18
DHS says AZ is currently compliant dalton99a Sep 2017 #20
Yes, because of the workaround Sentath Sep 2017 #40
We got Global Entry iamateacher Sep 2017 #21
The airline I fly always puts us on pre-check status MineralMan Sep 2017 #23
If you travel out of the country at all, Global Entry is AWESOME. It's not just the pre-check that Neema Sep 2017 #28
Are you flying out of the country or driving to Canada? You can get a passport card... George II Sep 2017 #22
I'm just covering the possibilities by getting my passport MineralMan Sep 2017 #24
The passport card and the passport itself PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #48
I just had to renew my license here in NC. cwydro Sep 2017 #25
Depends on the state. MineralMan Sep 2017 #26
I've let mine lapse before too. cwydro Sep 2017 #29
A valid passport will always work, so no worries. MineralMan Sep 2017 #27
That's what I said to the stone faced drivers license lady. cwydro Sep 2017 #30
Kind of like the star on your screen name here on DU, I guess. MineralMan Sep 2017 #32
Yes, good point. cwydro Sep 2017 #33
I have an enhanced DL (Washington state) LisaM Sep 2017 #31
That's very relevant. MineralMan Sep 2017 #36
I renewed mine last November just because I always like to have a valid passport in case beaglelover Sep 2017 #34
November is the best month to renew, apparently. MineralMan Sep 2017 #37
My Wife and I just renewed ours and got our kids 1st passports also JDC Sep 2017 #35
Yeah. Usually they show up in less time, for sure. MineralMan Sep 2017 #38
I was dreading renewing my passport back in May but was pleasantly surprised Snake Plissken Sep 2017 #39
There are no official photos yet. Trump and Pence have not MineralMan Sep 2017 #41
If I knew that I wouldn't have waited until the last minute to get my passport renewed Snake Plissken Sep 2017 #42
Yeah. Fortunately, I could do my renewal MineralMan Sep 2017 #43
Make checks payable to Scarsdale Sep 2017 #44
We're having the same problem in Pennsylvania perdita9 Sep 2017 #45
A surprising number of states are not Real ID compliant PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #46
It's funny that I need my passport to renew my DL and vice versa. no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #47
Frequent flyers may also want to get the wallet size Passcard LeftInTX Sep 2017 #49
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»My wife and I just renewe...»Reply #36