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Ken Burch

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3. Thank you.

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 12:19 PM

Sep 2017

And I'd go a little farther:

Yes, Bernie is sometimes undiplomatic as hell in what he has said since the election. Yes, I wish he would change that.

That doesn't mean any line of argument that happens to go along with all or some of his analysis should automatically be dismissed as hostile or divisive, though.

We can't win by continuing to run the party exactly the way it was run in 2016.

And it isn't even about wanting to ditch the social agenda.

Obviously we are a pro-choice party and need to stay that way.

We must always defend choice and oppose bigotry with the same passion we bring to those issues now.

It doesn't conflict with that to bringing a stronger economic justice position into what we say, though.

We can and must stand with BOTH justice struggles, because in the end that's how we get to justice for the majority.

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I am a Democrat [View all] Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 OP

Thank you! TDale313 Sep 2017 #1

When they share? So there are circumstances where you will vote GOP or independent? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #6

Sure there are jl_theprofessor Sep 2017 #16

The open question is whether Person X is bringing about important and desirable social changes, or Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #2

Thank you. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #3

This touches on a section of Secretary Clinton's book I found particularly interesting. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2017 #4

Bernie saw no alternative to hitching on to the Democratic collective LuvLoogie Sep 2017 #5

That progress was built on the blook sweat and tears of the likes of Norman Thomas also. Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #7

My response not completed, edited to add more after LuvLoogie Sep 2017 #9

Well said and spot on! Nt Ninga Sep 2017 #10

I wouldn't know where to start.. humm pangaia Sep 2017 #15

it's blisteringly truthful though... JHan Sep 2017 #21

Bernie continues to bash AND RandomAccess Sep 2017 #19

THANK YOU, Tom, elleng Sep 2017 #8

THANK YOU. crim son Sep 2017 #11

Ive stepped away from the shitshow on DU over this. Focusing my attn locally right now riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #12

Bravo! LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #13

K&R. n/t ms liberty Sep 2017 #14

Thank you democrank Sep 2017 #17

The Democratic Party is the only way to enact progressive change ...and criticizing them which Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #18

That simply is not true Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #25

+ 1000 & thank you RandomAccess Sep 2017 #20

Unfortunately when the criticism seems mostly negative & delisen Sep 2017 #30

Well RandomAccess Sep 2017 #31

As I said, this may vary around the country regarding delisen Sep 2017 #32

"If one side believes that there is no difference between the Democratic Party and the Republican... Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #33

I also consider it a force for good RandomAccess Sep 2017 #36

A B S O L U T E L Y! Lyricalinklines Sep 2017 #22

Great post! Martin Eden Sep 2017 #23

We see Bernie very differently. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #24

That is probably true, but the point I am trying to make is not tied soley to that Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #26

It'd more true if he was not telling us plus reminding us. Believe me, I have no interest in him. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #27

I appreciate your thought-out post. moriah Sep 2017 #28

Again I want to thank you. MuseRider Sep 2017 #29

Thank you. Some most excellent thinking out loud. Certainly no apology called for. Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #38

That was an excellent thread too. MuseRider Sep 2017 #39

Bravo!! Duppers Sep 2017 #34

It's a big tent. Orsino Sep 2017 #35

thank you. Joe941 Sep 2017 #37