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109. She claimed to have read the book in 2014, before the movie was released

nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
269. I am reading the book right now

After seeing the fire here. Because, quite frankly, this much thick black smoke, that fire is hot...we are talking several alarms worth.

Please, read it yourself. Stop with the journals until you read it

In reality it should have staid in fanfic, where those themes are common. Hell I read decades ago some of that crap (yes, it is crappy writing) in fiction writing groups that was far better written that went nowhere commercially and had better written and developed characters. Yes, you read a lot of crap in those groups and genres you would never read otherwise.

This is, quite frankly, to be kind, a 500 page first draft of a badly developed piece of work that somehow jumped to mainstream. I suspect part of the reason is the attention given to it, and controversy sells. I use the words written work with trepidation, but it has very little to redeem it as literature...

But it is what it is, and cannot wait for the raging wild fire when the movie premieres. I guess I will have to watch it, since likely it will be a commercial success. I just hope the movie improves the heft of the characters from paper thin, best case to somewhat developed. Yup, it is also that media thing, and ix know I am way late to the party. Yup, was under a rock.

I can see, reading the actual material, how this has a sub group of feminist scholars all kinds of angry, but instead of telling us about the domineering Christian Grey, which he is, and that is all he is, rather ask why are women chiefly attracted to this sexual fantasy? Now that, if you must, is the question I would be asking...but that is, once again, after reading the primary source (and I still have ways to go)

Oh and as far as Ana, I read in a history class one of the earliest porn books ever written...those characters were submissive (Victorian era,) they were very assertive compared to Ana, who is a unidimensional 12 year old in the body of an older person. Her inner though process, book is first person, is that of a teen, crap, crap, crap...holy crap.

Forgive me for not remembering the name of that book...I made a point to forget it after class was over...it was that badly written, in comparison to this that was some stellar writing.

But anybody who wants to discuss this...should actually read it...something about primary sources and due diligence.

Though, it is stellar easy reading when sick. Trust me, can't do the County's climate action plan right now.

But my inner writer is gnashing teeth. This actually is a commercial success...glad I did not pay full price for this...

This is quite possibly the worst piece of writing I have ever read that has been published, oh and the sex is that badly written too.

So I will ask, what made this such a success? My going theory is...controversy. Hell, that is the only reason I bought it.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5305255

On another thread disusing the books merits, she poo pooed the book because there was no boarder check (Papers, please) between Portland and Vancouver, not comprehending the main character was a student attending Washington State University, Vancouver, Washington, just across the river from Portland, Oregon.