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deaniac21

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68. Bingo

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Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:41 PM

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There is not a single business owner in this country who got where they are 100% on their own [View all] Hugabear Jul 2012 OP

Good points. pinto Jul 2012 #1

Look at all the factory towns along the Erie Canal, not to mention Buffalo hedgehog Jul 2012 #2

I give them this article . . . and all I get are brush-offs and goalpost movement. HughBeaumont Jul 2012 #3

My Republican family members are going off about this right now gollygee Jul 2012 #4

Hyperindividualism amfortas the hippie Jul 2012 #5

I think this is a bad argument to make hfojvt Jul 2012 #6

Obama should have vetted the speech... GreenMask Jul 2012 #7

thank you for your concern datasuspect Jul 2012 #8

Fuck the business community. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #16

There's a winning campaign slogan. (nt) nessa Jul 2012 #70

Did you hear the whole speech? Mz Pip Jul 2012 #77

Or their own... GreenMask Jul 2012 #79

So this hypothetical house - you would have built it all on your own, with no outside help at all? Hugabear Jul 2012 #9

What about risk? GreenMask Jul 2012 #10

That's not what we're talking about here Hugabear Jul 2012 #11

Somewhat GreenMask Jul 2012 #13

a house may be a bad example hfojvt Jul 2012 #19

you are missing the point I think- Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #12

Defeated your own argument... GreenMask Jul 2012 #14

no, you are again missing the point. Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #15

Not the argument from the right wing... GreenMask Jul 2012 #36

I guess this is one of those Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #42

The 'right wing'? Meaning yourself of course. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #56

no you are missing the point hfojvt Jul 2012 #17

saying you didn't get there 100% on your own Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #20

The OP didn't say the mythological house Cerridwen Jul 2012 #25

+1 Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #32

Anyone who says they made all their wealth themselves has denigrated others CreekDog Jul 2012 #21

You built that house with help from the American community in so many ways...think about it... uponit7771 Jul 2012 #22

Disparage hard work????? Who's even remotely close to such a line other than Reich Wingers?? patrice Jul 2012 #31

Did you build your house in Somalia? Swede Jul 2012 #46

The 1% didn't build their houses on their own. liberal N proud Jul 2012 #51

Disconnect with everyone in the conversation... GreenMask Jul 2012 #57

It is more about chance than individual effort. liberal N proud Jul 2012 #58

Uncertain... GreenMask Jul 2012 #59

Let's cut to the chase. PETRUS Jul 2012 #61

What is the solution? GreenMask Jul 2012 #62

Two different ways to answer. PETRUS Jul 2012 #64

In with Keynes GreenMask Jul 2012 #66

How many low-level jobs lead to advancement...? liberal N proud Jul 2012 #69

Let's try an example GreenMask Jul 2012 #71

That is laughable liberal N proud Jul 2012 #72

Not right off GreenMask Jul 2012 #73

Gee every kid is good at sports liberal N proud Jul 2012 #75

Married people are less likely to be poor. GreenMask Jul 2012 #80

See this... liberal N proud Jul 2012 #84

Teach us about Free Enterprise and such! Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #74

Your analogy doesn't get out of the basement... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2012 #60

Bingo deaniac21 Jul 2012 #68

I agree. I think the big thing here is the baseline. What is "all by myself"... hughee99 Jul 2012 #83

Only a small fraction of government spending goes to things that help business FarCenter Jul 2012 #18

government is not just "federal spending" CreekDog Jul 2012 #23

With state and local government, by any metric, most government activity is not useful to business FarCenter Jul 2012 #24

you say police,fire protection, roads, sewers, military, people getting their checks not useful... CreekDog Jul 2012 #27

You probably responded on a computer with at least some components made in China FarCenter Jul 2012 #37

So you've given up on your argument that government doesn't do anything useful for business? CreekDog Jul 2012 #38

I never argued that government doesn't do anything useful for business. FarCenter Jul 2012 #39

who has made the argument that gov't must do everything it currently does for business to prosper? CreekDog Jul 2012 #41

Please tell me the history of how Cerridwen Jul 2012 #40

Please tell me what fraction of government expenditures have gone to such useful endeavors? FarCenter Jul 2012 #43

You mean how much government Cerridwen Jul 2012 #47

Where does all that DoD and DoE $$ end up? n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #44

Davis Monthan AFB for example? FarCenter Jul 2012 #48

The largest and second largest (HSA may have become #2) sources of corporate welfare. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #63

This whole issue is about a substantial as a smoke ring on a breezy day. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #26

Who suffers? We all suffer, and here's why: phantom power Jul 2012 #28

yes- Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #33

Your analysis is spot on! KansDem Jul 2012 #35

I ran across an FB group today who is saying that -AND- TTE, PO says they did nothing. patrice Jul 2012 #29

I'm a small business owner, and I agree completely!! progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #30

Demand Side Economics is actually the OPPOSITE of saying the business owner's work means nothing. patrice Jul 2012 #34

Isn't that what the "United" in Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #45

I'd like to see how businesses would do if we totally dismantled the government steve2470 Jul 2012 #49

Because police can't be everywhere, there are more private guards than police officers. FarCenter Jul 2012 #50

Give me a product and Yeah Its Spin Jul 2012 #52

Just had another thought, Yeah Its Spin Jul 2012 #55

That is a good point steve2470 Jul 2012 #53

yup...we started our upholstery business with a lot of help madrchsod Jul 2012 #54

personally, I think it was a dumb thing to say crazyjoe Jul 2012 #65

I agree with you gollygee Jul 2012 #67

A successful business cannot exist without enough paying customers to make a profit. eom Frustratedlady Jul 2012 #76

True, but... GreenMask Jul 2012 #85

the myth of the self-made man applies best to frontier prospectors. unblock Jul 2012 #78

Many like Sen. Ron Johnson of WI EC Jul 2012 #81

Here's my LTE in response to a winger letter Spike89 Jul 2012 #82

Again, today, Obama is getting HAMMERED on this... PBass Jul 2012 #86