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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. I question the assertion that "how things look" does not matter
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:09 PM
Oct 2017

You are going to buy your 16 year old one of two cars.

Either this one:



or this one:



They are both Honda Civics. Now, before you pick apart the specific examples (in which there may be some performance parts), the point is that you can make a pretty dull Honda Civic "look like" a race car with purely cosmetic changes.

Now, I keep hearing that "guns don't kill people, people kill people". Okay, that's fine. But the way that people ideate and behave is influenced by a range of psychological influences, INCLUDING HOW THINGS LOOK. You cannot deny that the appearance of an object, how it is designed, to whom it appeals, and what use it suggests, are elements that go into the way that people use them, what sort of people seek to use them, and what they believe the object's appropriate use may be.

To say that "the problem is human behavior" while also saying "but these changes are purely cosmetic" is trying to have your cake and eat it too.

Yes, human behavior with technology is influenced by "purely cosmetic" factors.

Can any kid go nuts in any car? Sure.

But if we are looking at statistical harm reduction, then psychological factors - i.e. how things look - do matter.

You ain't wrong. Iggo Oct 2017 #1
I never understood gotta have latest greatest anything Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #2
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.... LexVegas Oct 2017 #4
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This message was self-deleted by its author HAB911 Oct 2017 #7
I'd choose another word for your title. MineralMan Oct 2017 #11
moot now HAB911 Oct 2017 #13
Yeah. It pissed me off, too. MineralMan Oct 2017 #14
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It may come to that, since Scalise has doubled down on pro-gun after being shot. CakeGrrl Oct 2017 #8
Most of the time your frustration at this is justified... better Oct 2017 #9
I question the assertion that "how things look" does not matter jberryhill Oct 2017 #10
I seriously doubt if how someones gun looked ever influenced them to go on a killing spree. EX500rider Oct 2017 #15
If researchers were allowed to study that question, then your doubt might or might not be valid jberryhill Oct 2017 #16
Sorry, there's a lot more going on then: "My gun looks so cool I should go kill a bunch of people!.. EX500rider Oct 2017 #17
That is your opinion jberryhill Oct 2017 #18
I didn't say anything about it, but it's silly to think changing cosmetic features on a gun.. EX500rider Oct 2017 #19
I will certainly grant appearance matters, just not to the capabilities of the underlying object. better Oct 2017 #21
COWARDS NEED THEIR GUNS Skittles Oct 2017 #12
K & R! billh58 Oct 2017 #20
Exactly. MariaCSR Oct 2017 #22
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