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WhiskeyGrinder

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34. No, I'm asking what the "vetting" looks like.

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 03:08 PM

Nov 2017

What questions are asked, what information is requested, what backgrounds are checked, what other information is gathered -- who and from whom and how. Your answer about the AR-15s gives me a pretty good idea, though.

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I want it to be illegal for an American citizen to own a gun. [View all] NCTraveler Nov 2017 OP

I want to be a race car driver! nt GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #1

Start with a go-cart at the local track. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #6

Lol, great response...and totally agree with you on gun laws. Canoe52 Nov 2017 #228

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #199

I agree with you greeny2323 Nov 2017 #2

Gay marriage was a defeat for those that wanted to restrict rights hack89 Nov 2017 #3

We must fight for our rights life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #9

Gun ownership is a civil right hack89 Nov 2017 #14

Clearly it carries a lot of weight. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #18

ok. nt hack89 Nov 2017 #21

NCTraveler, what does representative government mean Hortensis Nov 2017 #143

Fine. Black powder, muzzle loading guns are just what the Founding Fathers had in mind. nt procon Nov 2017 #40

Are the founding fathers the gold standard for civil rights? hack89 Nov 2017 #43

Yeah, about that, ALL rights stem from the US Constitution. procon Nov 2017 #50

The Constitution doesn't give anybody any rights at all. Bucky Nov 2017 #59

The 9th Amendment is, itself, a right. Ergo, you're arguing against yourself. nt procon Nov 2017 #62

No it's not. Look at the words. Bucky Nov 2017 #64

The Bill of Rights are the first ten amendments of the Constitution. procon Nov 2017 #90

I think you're arguing with me just for the sake of arguing. Bucky Nov 2017 #100

Now there's a classic debate no-no; Appeal To Authority. procon Nov 2017 #102

Locke, Rousseau- are two enlightenment philosophers. X_Digger Nov 2017 #170

Of course the 2A allows strict gun control hack89 Nov 2017 #67

Yup ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #77

No. Read the preamble. The bill of rights is a limit on government. X_Digger Nov 2017 #167

No rights exist outside the sanction of the state? Marengo Nov 2017 #211

They saw their work as the foundation more protections would be built upon Bucky Nov 2017 #57

Those guns must also be smooth bore, Doc_Technical Nov 2017 #48

And all handmade... put a lot of people to work. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! 😛 nt procon Nov 2017 #51

Like the first only protects hand crank printing presses and quill pens? X_Digger Nov 2017 #171

That sort seem either to not to have thought about the implications of the "muskets-only" approach, friendly_iconoclast Nov 2017 #200

Smooth bore was military weapons. NutmegYankee Nov 2017 #214

Come on. With exception of a few here, the only rights most gunners are interested in are guns. Hoyt Nov 2017 #144

So the Bill of Rights are not civil rights? hack89 Nov 2017 #154

And my right to live is worth less to the NRA mythology Nov 2017 #245

Ok. nt hack89 Nov 2017 #246

Bullish!t Abouttime Nov 2017 #27

The 2A protects the individual right to keep and bear arms hack89 Nov 2017 #44

Rights ARE LIMITED - as the 2ND AMENDMENT is now. There is no winning the argument that rights vkkv Nov 2017 #93

The 2A is not the reason gun control is a smoking wreck in America. hack89 Nov 2017 #98

So what's the argument then? Let's LIMIT automatically chamber-re-loading firearms and high capacity vkkv Nov 2017 #110

Not cool hack89 Nov 2017 #115

Liking YOUR rifles is not part of the national dialogue... vkkv Nov 2017 #118

That's ok. I don't mind talking to myself. nt hack89 Nov 2017 #124

Why dont you give them up now? Marengo Nov 2017 #130

As soon as I can vote to make them illegal, I will. vkkv Nov 2017 #135

No, you can voluntarily surrender them to your local PD so as to set an example. Invite the media... Marengo Nov 2017 #141

Unlike most gun owners, I'm not a FUCKING idiot. vkkv Nov 2017 #146

If you are so opposed to the civilian ownership of semiauto firearms, why do you... Marengo Nov 2017 #148

This is probably the most stupid exchange I've had here at DU.. just end it already.. vkkv Nov 2017 #150

It simply doesnt make any sense for you to oppose civilian ownership of semiauto... Marengo Nov 2017 #157

No, it makes perfect sense. I can own them now, so I do, but I would VOTE to dis-allow other people vkkv Nov 2017 #168

Stunningly illogical. Why would you continue to possess firearms you belive no one, including... Marengo Nov 2017 #179

Okay, I'll make it super clear for the morons. If something is fun and legal I'll use it until vkkv Nov 2017 #184

Ah, your motive IS selfish after all, unlike your claim in post 168. Nothing else can logically... Marengo Nov 2017 #185

Since when are 10/22s a serious threat to public safety? You do not know squat! IMHO. vkkv Nov 2017 #189

You are granting yourself an exception which violates your own principle. If you honestly believe... Marengo Nov 2017 #192

"Since when are 10/22s a serious threat to public safety?" EX500rider Nov 2017 #224

WHEN WAS THAT AND ...WHY? vkkv Nov 2017 #229

Hard to say why, you'd have to ask the criminals. EX500rider Nov 2017 #231

30 YEARS AGO... GREAT DATA! Is that why most gun-nuts seem so well uninformed? vkkv Nov 2017 #233

The difference between 22% and 16% is not that much. EX500rider Nov 2017 #235

If you have more recent data feel free to post it. EX500rider Nov 2017 #236

Why misrepresent Obama? johnsonsnap Nov 2017 #132

""I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms,.. hack89 Nov 2017 #134

Name of store that sells squirrel? Runningdawg Nov 2017 #113

Ahhh, so your civil right to kill me with a gun PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #29

There is no right to murder hack89 Nov 2017 #38

But no specific right to keep and bear semi automatic weapons. nt procon Nov 2017 #42

AWBs are perfectly constitutional hack89 Nov 2017 #47

States have the right to ban any type of gun, proscribe the whole category. nt procon Nov 2017 #52

And some have done exactly that hack89 Nov 2017 #65

States cannot ban handguns ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #79

So which one should take precedence? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2017 #75

Neither hack89 Nov 2017 #87

Textbook example of why restrictive gun laws are going nowhere... Baconator Nov 2017 #126

My right not to be shot by a lunatic with a gun... hunter Nov 2017 #56

All you have to do is convince the courts hack89 Nov 2017 #66

I can be proactive too. hunter Nov 2017 #69

Ok. nt hack89 Nov 2017 #74

Are you saying you physically attack people ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #83

If you fear for your life. . . . .It's worked for a lot of white wing gun-humpers. Hoyt Nov 2017 #182

Just standing my ground. hunter Nov 2017 #191

Given *that* attitude, the only difference between you and the homophobic 'bathroom bill' types... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2017 #202

Wait, you attack armed people and disarm them? cwydro Nov 2017 #103

Culture warriors of all sorts see threats everywhere that society needs 'protection' from friendly_iconoclast Nov 2017 #208

Can you legally touch a firearm? Marengo Nov 2017 #212

You keep wanting to go there... hunter Nov 2017 #216

LOL! You expended a great amount of effort not answering my question. No matter, I couldnt care Marengo Nov 2017 #218

Wanna bet? hunter Nov 2017 #220

Affability is irrelevant, one is either a prohibited person or not. If you are, its in your best... Marengo Nov 2017 #223

Fear for your guns... hunter Nov 2017 #239

How is my right to live not a civil right? AllyCat Nov 2017 #76

Refusing to talk about it simply means nothing changes hack89 Nov 2017 #91

Again, how is our right to live, not a civil right? AllyCat Nov 2017 #116

I never said it wasn't hack89 Nov 2017 #122

You did not. You deflected to talk about how wrong I am since AllyCat Nov 2017 #138

Lets start by focusing on violent people hack89 Nov 2017 #139

What do you mean by live by the whole amendment? Marengo Nov 2017 #213

The well-regulated militia bit that no one wants AllyCat Nov 2017 #221

What does well regulated mean, how does it apply? Marengo Nov 2017 #238

Yeah, and you get one bullet for your hunting trip. If you miss, then go home. R B Garr Nov 2017 #4

Deer Hunter ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #32

Interesting! Because I was thinking of a movie, but not that one. R B Garr Nov 2017 #81

Barney Fife hunting :o) Bucky Nov 2017 #54

Before gay marriage were domestic partnerships and civil unions marylandblue Nov 2017 #5

This. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #8

I agree with you. Vinca Nov 2017 #7

Also, all firearms and ammo have to be stored at a secure armory MineralMan Nov 2017 #10

Nope ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #85

Not only no, but hell no. Lurker Deluxe Nov 2017 #152

Well, raise a couple hundred billion dollars to pay for all those weapons. Calista241 Nov 2017 #11

That doesn't make much sense as a first step. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #19

That poster might be referencing Australia's buy back program LittleBlue Nov 2017 #89

How do you vet someone for a hunting license? What goes into the process? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #12

Vetting and waiting period would be for the gun and controlled by the feds. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #22

No, I'm asking what the "vetting" looks like. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #34

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #60

If you can't hit what you're aiming at sharp_stick Nov 2017 #80

Dumb fucks "hunt with AR-15s." Yep, because vkkv Nov 2017 #101

Take it from someone who has hunted with the AR platform, your facts are bullshit Marengo Nov 2017 #107

Hunted what? AllyCat Nov 2017 #117

Mulies Marengo Nov 2017 #121

Seriously, you need an AR15 to hunt a mule deer? AllyCat Nov 2017 #136

Since need has nothing to do with it, why not? What do you think my loadout was? Marengo Nov 2017 #140

The need is not there. The desire to have a weapon that is used for killing people AllyCat Nov 2017 #142

Nonsensical, unless youre arguing that no deer hunting rifle has ever been used to kill a person. Marengo Nov 2017 #145

Only when your appointment as Secretary of Needs is confirmed by the Senate... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2017 #203

Seems I struck a nerve! vkkv Nov 2017 #123

LOL! Truth only in your mind. Marengo Nov 2017 #127

The only thing you hunt with an AR-15 is people! redstatebluegirl Nov 2017 #104

Do you hunt? Marengo Nov 2017 #108

I did as a girl on the farm. My dad had guns to keep predators away from our livestock. redstatebluegirl Nov 2017 #109

I forgot to say with my current eyesight nobody would want me hunting now. redstatebluegirl Nov 2017 #112

The AR platform has gained popularity for more than just varmints in recent years. I have used... Marengo Nov 2017 #114

Oh, well if it is gaining popularity, we cant talk about AllyCat Nov 2017 #120

I never said it cant be discussed, but the reality is that youre wrong about the AR platform... Marengo Nov 2017 #128

Except for the hunters who don't. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #111

Makes no sense to me. I support the right of hunters to have long rifles and other redstatebluegirl Nov 2017 #119

Almost half of hunters have used an AR-type rifle in the past five years for hunting. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #129

Only 6% of population hunted in past 12 months. And I bet most of Hoyt Nov 2017 #205

The question was whether hunters use an AR-type rifle. Yes, many do. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #210

Sure some do, they are violent and enjoy shooting up things. Hoyt Nov 2017 #215

Are all hunters who use the AR platform for hunting violent, and can you define violent as used Marengo Nov 2017 #219

"Only 6% of population hunted in past 12 months." EX500rider Nov 2017 #225

Unless you hunt something else... ileus Nov 2017 #151

Yea ok Watchfoxheadexplodes Nov 2017 #13

I want a boat fescuerescue Nov 2017 #15

Depends on the boat. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #23

Reducing or eliminating civil liberties won't work in the long run. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #16

Nope. Stop proposing Binary solutions. maxsolomon Nov 2017 #17

My solution isn't binary as you claim. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author maxsolomon Nov 2017 #30

OK, so you want hunting exempted. maxsolomon Nov 2017 #36

"OK, so you want hunting exempted." NCTraveler Nov 2017 #37

you know, we're on the same side. maxsolomon Nov 2017 #195

The militia argument is a dead end now DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2017 #41

You'll get lots of reasons why this is a bad idea by people that love guns more than people. nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #20

I personally think it is a bad idea ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #25

Or people who possibly care about people and Watchfoxheadexplodes Nov 2017 #26

Neither did any of the other myriad assholes who shot people Egnever Nov 2017 #227

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #28

I want to be a billionaire. nt doc03 Nov 2017 #31

Me too ellie Nov 2017 #33

I'm with you. Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #35

I want it to be illegal sarisataka Nov 2017 #39

So, then only the government and non-citizens will be allowed to own guns? Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #45

PSHYAAAAAAAAAAAAA. HughBeaumont Nov 2017 #46

Then you don't actually want it to be illegal to own a gun. Otherwise, there would be no exceptions. better Nov 2017 #49

That won't fly any time soon. Ilsa Nov 2017 #53

You expect me hunt ducks with a rifle? Shrek Nov 2017 #55

Ducks are people too! ileus Nov 2017 #155

and a little dangerous ... Lurker Deluxe Nov 2017 #163

never happen. Its as unreasonable as those who want a AK47 in every house beachbum bob Nov 2017 #58

Seems extreme Not Ruth Nov 2017 #61

I agree! It's time as a society that we need to ask ourselves this question. Initech Nov 2017 #63

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #68

Welcome to DU,,,,,Comrade! Cryptoad Nov 2017 #70

What are the stats for deaths from gun shot in other countries? King_Klonopin Nov 2017 #105

94 countries have a higher homicide rate then the US. EX500rider Nov 2017 #226

Did you even LOOK at the "information" in that link ? King_Klonopin Nov 2017 #241

If the overall US homicide rate is 4.something- EX500rider Nov 2017 #242

I think there's a bit of an apples/oranges thing happening here. sl8 Nov 2017 #244

Speaking of "intellectually dishonest, intentionally misleading posts" EX500rider Nov 2017 #243

U want reasonable gun Regs,,,,,ban the GOP Cryptoad Nov 2017 #71

I think the Republicans' love for the Joe Chi Minh Nov 2017 #72

Just wondering: are guns allowed to be discussed in GD? CTyankee Nov 2017 #73

To a great extent, I agree with you... Sancho Nov 2017 #78

But but but we need our guns vs. a potential future tyrannical government aeromanKC Nov 2017 #82

they can have a 1700's type musket. pansypoo53219 Nov 2017 #84

And you can circulate your gun control ideas ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #88

And when you are ill, aka-chmeee Nov 2017 #99

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #86

Gay marriage is protected by the Constitution. Why would you think otherwise? LexVegas Nov 2017 #92

Rights ARE LIMITED - as the 2ND AMENDMENT is now. There is no winning the argument that rights vkkv Nov 2017 #94

Then how are you going to resist tyranny from your own government? IronLionZion Nov 2017 #95

Anyone who thinks they need firearms to protect themselves from the government vkkv Nov 2017 #96

Agreed. linuxman Nov 2017 #186

Will never happen DownriverDem Nov 2017 #97

Thank video games for that DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2017 #164

That is what loses elections for us nt doc03 Nov 2017 #106

Will you be coming to collect them? Alea Nov 2017 #125

Works for me! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2017 #131

I want to be a space ship traveler quartz007 Nov 2017 #133

Well said. And there would be a mandatory inspection of gun and ammo storage every year. GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #137

So guns for rich people only then? EX500rider Nov 2017 #169

Guns should be amazingly expensive for everyone. Including police and governments. GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #183

For the proles. linuxman Nov 2017 #187

I am sure poor people who rely on hunting for extra food or... EX500rider Nov 2017 #193

I'm on board with the UK with this. GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #196

Gun owership is spike jones Nov 2017 #147

I agree. Anyone who keeps an arsenal of weapons has something very, very wrong smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #194

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I want it to be illegal for an American citizen to vote republican. ileus Nov 2017 #153

i like my guns and im a good shot.. we used to target practice.. samnsara Nov 2017 #156

I've never had a problem with "responsible" gun ownership like you. I used to love target shooting RKP5637 Nov 2017 #161

I want to know how you plan on ENFORCING that proposal. liquid diamond Nov 2017 #158

Oh, the police -- who are so great with guns -- will do just fine, I'm sure. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #160

I disagree. The vulnerable are at a disadvantage without a gun. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #159

I agree with you! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2017 #162

All guns kill around 10,000+ a year in the US.. EX500rider Nov 2017 #172

Glocks & such attract a certain kind of guy. Not just gun collectors. Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #176

"Glocks & such attract a certain kind of guy." EX500rider Nov 2017 #178

Better: only vegans can buy/have hunting rifles. flvegan Nov 2017 #165

Since when do vegans use guns for hunting? Dr. Strange Nov 2017 #177

Those flvegan Nov 2017 #180

I have no respect for anyone who owns a gun Awsi Dooger Nov 2017 #166

If you say... EX500rider Nov 2017 #173

Boom Alea Nov 2017 #201

Norway already has laws like that, yet it didn't stop Breivik from killing 69 people ansible Nov 2017 #174

These kinds of posts are DU's version of 'hopes and prayers'. n/t X_Digger Nov 2017 #175

LOL. linuxman Nov 2017 #188

And what do you call gun promoters' and profiteers' posts? Hoyt Nov 2017 #206

Free speech....speech you don't approve of. AncientGeezer Nov 2017 #217

I know, gun control scares the former thief.. X_Digger Nov 2017 #222

Not sure where you're going here. moriah Nov 2017 #230

I'm saying that those folks of Hoyt's former profession have a vested interest in gun control. X_Digger Nov 2017 #232

Oh, sorry. moriah Nov 2017 #234

and I want a unicorn Raine Nov 2017 #181

No, thanks. Inkfreak Nov 2017 #190

Run for office then. I'm sure this will get you a lot of votes. YoungDemCA Nov 2017 #197

And I disagree Calculating Nov 2017 #198

I went by this store front today that had a sign out front: CASH FOR GUNS. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2017 #204

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I want it to be illegal Rincewind Nov 2017 #209

I bet all criminals wish that also. EX500rider Nov 2017 #237

Complete gun confiscation is the answer. Fluke a Snooker Nov 2017 #240