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In reply to the discussion: So, here is a picture of Leanne Tweeden grabbing the guitar players ass & dry humping [View all]stevenleser
(32,886 posts)It's quite telling that in this latest response, you trot out an appeal to emotion with an unrelated situation in an attempt to bolster a weak argument and lack of understanding of what acting and entertaining in the situation at hand would be like regarding Franken and Tweeden.
You talk about my comment on boundaries, it's very simple. You say so, when it happens. That is the responsibility of the actor in the situation. In Tweeden's case, she claims that instead of saying she wasn't comfortable with that, she told Franken she didnt think they needed to rehearse it and then said 'OK'. So, in her own words, she never gave Franken the opportunity to know that she was uncomfortable, if in fact she was. We don't know that she was, and her own actions in these performances suggests she was not uncomfortable at all with performing raunchy actions on stage and by implication, with practicing them offstage.
Without telling Franken that what he was asking was beyond her boundaries, she can't later claim he overstepped them.
And let's be clear, a passionate kiss is not raunchy, certainly not like simulated sex by grinding yourself on other people. So another performer who is putting together a skit with you in mind would certainly not think that this was beyond your boundaries. Again, that is up to you to make clear when the moment occurs.
Actors and actresses do this all the time regarding much more intimate subject matter.
The other obvious point here is that she never asserts that there was any real pressure to not assert that this was beyond her boundaries. In fact if we accept her account as fact, there were zero repercussions to her job for refusing to do the scene as Franken planned it. She makes some silly assertions about how she was the subject of some jokes after that. I find the entire episode contrived. She had two decades to think about how to couch it all in a way that would harm him and at an opportune moment for the party she supports, she came out with that account.
And by the way, as another poster pointed out here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9863182 Franken had done this kiss skit at the USO with another performer in the past. It was part of the act. This wasn't done specially for Leeann so there was no intent to make her uncomfortable or to exceed her boundaries.
You are simply wrong here. Now the question is whether you will acknowledge it.