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LBM20

(1,580 posts)
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 03:49 PM Nov 2017

Does ANYONE here, or anywhere, have a perfect past? Very doubtful. [View all]

OK, put your life under a microscope. I am not condoning inappropriate behavior, but fairness and context and degrees of things must ALWAYS be considered (as well as deliberate smear campaigns) because NO life has been perfect. NONE. Man or woman. We have all probably said or done something that seemed innocent and playful at the time but could later be considered inappropriate and maybe even regretful. Men do it. And women do it too.

So when someone like Al Franken receives shady accusations and when something happened 11 years ago meant to be a comical gag is thrown out there (most likely at the behest of right wing operatives), be FAIR and take things into degrees and context. (I know he apologized for the staged photo, and should have. I am making a larger point.)

And remember your OWN life and background and ask YOURSELF "Have I been perfect? Have I EVER done or said ANYTHING even years ago that someone could throw back in my face now if they really wanted to?" As a male I can say that I have said some things that today I wouldn't say, even jokingly as I did many years ago. And I also have received touches, gestures, and comments from women on a few occasions that today, or even back then, could be considered inappropriate. (At the time I took these as innocent playfulness and flirting on their part.)

Be fair. Be careful about judging and throwing stones. Examine thyself first. Serious and repeated allegations of predator abuse is one thing. A comical gag gone bad is another. In Franken's case, there is little evidence of a pattern of abuse. In fact, just the opposite. But has he been perfect? No. NONE of us have. Let's remember that.

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I have lived a less than exemplary life but I chose not to live it in the public square. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #1
That is why a lot of us don't want to run for public office. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #2
Turns out that living a clean life doesn't matter if you are a Republican VMA131Marine Nov 2017 #3
Very true, only if you are a Dem. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #4
And then your fellow Dems will throw you under the bus. cwydro Nov 2017 #12
We have been known to eat our young. :( nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #14
You should now be able to run for office even if you haven't been perfect and incidents were LBM20 Nov 2017 #5
Define "public." Igel Nov 2017 #15
Yeah I completely understand tymorial Nov 2017 #27
I was an angelic child..... panader0 Nov 2017 #6
Right. And bears don't poop in the woods. (I know you are just being funny.) :-) LBM20 Nov 2017 #9
How many here could run for office and survive opposition research? wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #7
Yup. Virtually ALL of us have made some weak judgements (often when drinking). LBM20 Nov 2017 #10
I'm thankful that camera phones weren't around when I was 16-30 NightWatcher Nov 2017 #8
I don't. But, unlike Roy Moore, I never fucked children. Iggo Nov 2017 #11
No, no, no. Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #16
Obviously, very serious stuff like that is at a very different level. Moore needs to be gone. LBM20 Nov 2017 #20
what's idiodic is that our country uses past individuals' sexual histories to determine tax policy unblock Nov 2017 #13
Everything I do is perfectly evil. democratisphere Nov 2017 #17
Can we please have a serious discussion. LBM20 Nov 2017 #21
There is no such thing as a perfect past when you are dealing with imperfect humans. democratisphere Nov 2017 #28
there is clearly a range of magnitude for past deeds, but we often view our own far more harshly hlthe2b Nov 2017 #18
Redefining being Republican: Giving Trump his BILLION $$ tax break trumps child molestation. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #19
"I'm as pure as the driven slush." - Tallulah Bankhead nt Buns_of_Fire Nov 2017 #22
I'll never be President... hexola Nov 2017 #23
"Just as every cop is a criminal, and all the sinners Saints." - Rolling Stones Comatose Sphagetti Nov 2017 #24
I'm not sure "Nobody's perfect" is a good line to use outside of "Some Like It Hot." WinkyDink Nov 2017 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Nov 2017 #26
Nobody's arguing that Al Franken should be perfect... brooklynite Nov 2017 #29
False charges Cartoonist Nov 2017 #30
I once got angry with my GF at a Tori Amos show ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #31
I've Done Some Really Rascally Things in My Life Leith Nov 2017 #32
Ugh. What disgusting drivel. I can unequivocally state that I have never grabbed the ass or Squinch Nov 2017 #33
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