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NickB79

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35. Others have asked if Dr. Thompson was correct. So far, the findings have been a resounding "NOPE"
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 07:11 PM
Apr 2015
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/did-a-high-ranking-whistleblower-really-reveal-that-the-cdc-covered-up-proof-that-vaccines-cause-autism-in-african-american-boys/

The result was a “finding” that there was a 3.4-fold increased risk of autism associated with MMR in African-American boys. Never mind that the numbers of this subgroup were tiny and the data incorrectly analyzed. Never mind that the rest of the data were negative as negative could be for even a whiff of a hint of a correlation between vaccines and autism for any other subgroup and that the vast majority of the leaders of the antivaccine movement are your basic affluent white people who never showed much in the way of an interest in the problems of African-American children before. Suddenly, this finding was being likened to the Tuskegee syphilis experiment by Andrew Wakefield himself!

This incompetent study was the result, allegedly, of discussions between Hooker and a senior psychologist at the CDC named William Thompson. For reasons that are still not clear, Thompson, a co-author on an important study by DeStefano et al, confided in Hooker, who, betraying his confidences, recorded much of what he said, an action whose legality is unclear given that it’s unclear where all of these recordings were made (one party or two party consent states). Hooker then teamed up with Andrew Wakefield to cherry pick bits to make it sound as though Thompson were confessing to some horrible crime of data manipulation to hide this “bombshell” result reported by Wakefield. Thus was born the “CDC whistleblower,” who featured prominently in the video likening DeStefano et al and the “coverup” to the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. Later, Thompson released as statement through his lawyer characterizing the whole problem over DeStefano et al as being a scientific disagreement. Nonetheless, a new conspiracy theory was born: The “CDC whistleblower,” complete with its own hashtag on Twitter, #CDCwhistleblower. Thompson has said nothing publicly since then, and the mainstream media has basically ignored the story other than an interview with Ronan Farrow of MSNBC that basically trashed the claims of the antivaccine movement.


Would you look at that, Dr. Wakefield strikes again! Gee, who would have guessed?

And Dr. Poland's research does not support Dr. Thompson/Hook/Wakefield's study, despite your desire to think it does. In fact, it sounds from Dr. Poland's statements that we may need to tailor our vaccinations to INCREASE the dosage in people of some ethnicities, given their lower antibody response rate.
This is wonderful, but murielm99 Apr 2015 #1
Yes... Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2015 #2
Too true, alas. It's that need for a quick and easy cause. Used to be... Moonwalk Apr 2015 #4
No exactly doug1105 Apr 2015 #24
Welcome to DU. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #26
My kid was diagnosed with autism. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2015 #31
"Having your kid get diagnosed with Autism is like being told your kid is going to die."? Throckmorton Apr 2015 #33
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #39
consider the source alp227 Apr 2015 #40
I'm sure our local SwankyXomb Apr 2015 #8
Well you know Dr. Jenna McCarthy is out there telling us otherwise LynneSin Apr 2015 #3
Hey, now, there have been some very smart centerfolds...Jenna just isnt one of 'em. Moonwalk Apr 2015 #5
I feel like the woman should be sued for the amount of misinformation she has spread LynneSin Apr 2015 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #11
I agree. As I recall, she was on Oprah and told some story... Moonwalk Apr 2015 #12
And right after he got the shot she saw "the light go out of his eyes..." AlbertCat Apr 2015 #15
Well, actually, we know the shot WAS NOT responsible and it's highly unlikely... Moonwalk Apr 2015 #22
No pre-natal test yet doug1105 Apr 2015 #25
True. No pre-natal test and not likely to be for a long while. They can kinda-sorta test infants... Moonwalk Apr 2015 #30
Bold headline from a CNBC business article reporting on a new JAMA editorial and study. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #7
I think someone needs to read their own sig line. n/t tammywammy Apr 2015 #9
Here's a disconcerting finding among 21% of pediatric subspecialists participating in this survey. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #17
I already know what your shtick is, you don't need to supply any links. n/t tammywammy Apr 2015 #18
The JAMA study concludes that there is no link Cal Carpenter Apr 2015 #10
This is one of those "I'm not anti-vaccine" folks. Which reminds one of geek tragedy Apr 2015 #13
IMO, careful scrutiny of a study by other vetted experts is wise before accepting it at face value. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #19
"careful scrutiny of a study by other vetted experts" NickB79 Apr 2015 #29
At least once before, to put it kindly and in colloquial terms, JAMA peer review process was punked. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #32
Here's to paradigm changing experts! Meanwhile, ask yourself what if Dr William Thompson is correct? proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #34
Others have asked if Dr. Thompson was correct. So far, the findings have been a resounding "NOPE" NickB79 Apr 2015 #35
Your sources are entirely mistaken on Thompson. Developing... sorry, no links yet. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #36
Above, rubella; below, measles. O, snap. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #38
Actually, Psychiatry used to not be good for Autism, but now is... Moonwalk Apr 2015 #14
You need better shtick. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #21
It's CNBC, as far as I can see, not MSNBC, so for accuracy you might want to fix your post. (nt) proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #16
If there was a link between vaccines and autism, it would have been discovered by now. Little Tich Apr 2015 #20
Pseudoscience and belligerence Novara Apr 2015 #27
One thousand fifty-four comments here. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #23
Again? What a coincidence! NickB79 Apr 2015 #28
Interesting link from Twitter. proverbialwisdom Apr 2015 #37
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