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In reply to the discussion: Autism shown to have no link to measles vaccine [View all]NickB79
(19,274 posts)35. Others have asked if Dr. Thompson was correct. So far, the findings have been a resounding "NOPE"
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/did-a-high-ranking-whistleblower-really-reveal-that-the-cdc-covered-up-proof-that-vaccines-cause-autism-in-african-american-boys/
Would you look at that, Dr. Wakefield strikes again! Gee, who would have guessed?
And Dr. Poland's research does not support Dr. Thompson/Hook/Wakefield's study, despite your desire to think it does. In fact, it sounds from Dr. Poland's statements that we may need to tailor our vaccinations to INCREASE the dosage in people of some ethnicities, given their lower antibody response rate.
The result was a finding that there was a 3.4-fold increased risk of autism associated with MMR in African-American boys. Never mind that the numbers of this subgroup were tiny and the data incorrectly analyzed. Never mind that the rest of the data were negative as negative could be for even a whiff of a hint of a correlation between vaccines and autism for any other subgroup and that the vast majority of the leaders of the antivaccine movement are your basic affluent white people who never showed much in the way of an interest in the problems of African-American children before. Suddenly, this finding was being likened to the Tuskegee syphilis experiment by Andrew Wakefield himself!
This incompetent study was the result, allegedly, of discussions between Hooker and a senior psychologist at the CDC named William Thompson. For reasons that are still not clear, Thompson, a co-author on an important study by DeStefano et al, confided in Hooker, who, betraying his confidences, recorded much of what he said, an action whose legality is unclear given that its unclear where all of these recordings were made (one party or two party consent states). Hooker then teamed up with Andrew Wakefield to cherry pick bits to make it sound as though Thompson were confessing to some horrible crime of data manipulation to hide this bombshell result reported by Wakefield. Thus was born the CDC whistleblower, who featured prominently in the video likening DeStefano et al and the coverup to the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. Later, Thompson released as statement through his lawyer characterizing the whole problem over DeStefano et al as being a scientific disagreement. Nonetheless, a new conspiracy theory was born: The CDC whistleblower, complete with its own hashtag on Twitter, #CDCwhistleblower. Thompson has said nothing publicly since then, and the mainstream media has basically ignored the story other than an interview with Ronan Farrow of MSNBC that basically trashed the claims of the antivaccine movement.
This incompetent study was the result, allegedly, of discussions between Hooker and a senior psychologist at the CDC named William Thompson. For reasons that are still not clear, Thompson, a co-author on an important study by DeStefano et al, confided in Hooker, who, betraying his confidences, recorded much of what he said, an action whose legality is unclear given that its unclear where all of these recordings were made (one party or two party consent states). Hooker then teamed up with Andrew Wakefield to cherry pick bits to make it sound as though Thompson were confessing to some horrible crime of data manipulation to hide this bombshell result reported by Wakefield. Thus was born the CDC whistleblower, who featured prominently in the video likening DeStefano et al and the coverup to the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. Later, Thompson released as statement through his lawyer characterizing the whole problem over DeStefano et al as being a scientific disagreement. Nonetheless, a new conspiracy theory was born: The CDC whistleblower, complete with its own hashtag on Twitter, #CDCwhistleblower. Thompson has said nothing publicly since then, and the mainstream media has basically ignored the story other than an interview with Ronan Farrow of MSNBC that basically trashed the claims of the antivaccine movement.
Would you look at that, Dr. Wakefield strikes again! Gee, who would have guessed?
And Dr. Poland's research does not support Dr. Thompson/Hook/Wakefield's study, despite your desire to think it does. In fact, it sounds from Dr. Poland's statements that we may need to tailor our vaccinations to INCREASE the dosage in people of some ethnicities, given their lower antibody response rate.
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"Having your kid get diagnosed with Autism is like being told your kid is going to die."?
Throckmorton
Apr 2015
#33
Hey, now, there have been some very smart centerfolds...Jenna just isnt one of 'em.
Moonwalk
Apr 2015
#5
I feel like the woman should be sued for the amount of misinformation she has spread
LynneSin
Apr 2015
#6
Well, actually, we know the shot WAS NOT responsible and it's highly unlikely...
Moonwalk
Apr 2015
#22
True. No pre-natal test and not likely to be for a long while. They can kinda-sorta test infants...
Moonwalk
Apr 2015
#30
Bold headline from a CNBC business article reporting on a new JAMA editorial and study.
proverbialwisdom
Apr 2015
#7
Here's a disconcerting finding among 21% of pediatric subspecialists participating in this survey.
proverbialwisdom
Apr 2015
#17
IMO, careful scrutiny of a study by other vetted experts is wise before accepting it at face value.
proverbialwisdom
Apr 2015
#19
At least once before, to put it kindly and in colloquial terms, JAMA peer review process was punked.
proverbialwisdom
Apr 2015
#32
Here's to paradigm changing experts! Meanwhile, ask yourself what if Dr William Thompson is correct?
proverbialwisdom
Apr 2015
#34
Others have asked if Dr. Thompson was correct. So far, the findings have been a resounding "NOPE"
NickB79
Apr 2015
#35
Your sources are entirely mistaken on Thompson. Developing... sorry, no links yet.
proverbialwisdom
Apr 2015
#36
It's CNBC, as far as I can see, not MSNBC, so for accuracy you might want to fix your post. (nt)
proverbialwisdom
Apr 2015
#16
If there was a link between vaccines and autism, it would have been discovered by now.
Little Tich
Apr 2015
#20