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mntleo2

(2,535 posts)
115. All too clear these protesters should ...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:51 AM
Aug 2015

...be hopping up on the stage and disrupting the REAL elitists who secretly and not so secretly hate them. Where were these brave souls at the Republican debates where every single one of those standing on the stage are known bigots (including their one black token who is classist himself)? Are they too scared to speak to these elitists but prefer to go and pick on one of their safer allies instead who would not ridicule them, hurt them, or ignore what they are saying as those in that debate last week? What other candidate has the same campaign platform on either side that is almost exactly the same as BLM? NOBODY. Who is hopping on those stages of the ones who are actively destroying them? NOBODY

I get their complaints and believe they are right about the lack of support and respect ~ believe me I have seen and lived it for over 30 years as an activist! My challenge for BLM is to stand up to those who have spent their lives destroying people's lives instead of the ones who are with them. As a long time activist I can tell you they are shooting themselves in the foot. They are losing people like me who has spent my life in the social justice movement, I am the mother to minority kids who has lost jobs, lost friends and even lost family for speaking truth to power. But sorry I think it is rather weak of BLM to attack their allies instead of going after their true enemies.

BLM has allowed only two weeks since Netroots Nation for Senator Sanders to hire more minorities as they requested, which he is doing and they demand that he move faster.

Finally I have to observe if BLM wants real representation it should be noted we have no other black or minioroty candidates running for president this year except a Jewish man. Where are they, there are plenty of very good prospects yet not ONE of them has stepped to the plate. Not enough funding the reason for not running? Neither did Senator Sanders, with no $Billionaire sugar daddies he depends on $5 contributions for his campaign. This could happen the same with ANY qualified minority candidate and there is nothing but crickets.

I am *not* trying to silence these energetic young people who are doing what many of us have tried to do for years. But I am saying they need to stop hurting the ones who support them and instead go after the ones who in some cases literally have actively sought their demise. Believe me they would have lots of support by people who have stood with them for decades, but to attack us is not the answer. Go attack those who have not done one thing for them and who have actively worked to create MORE damage instead. Oh you know who we are that have always been there as support for BLM, people like Senator Sanders who marched with MLK, people like me who raised kids, taught, spoke and worked with people of all cultures, who have family members who I love that are minorities, you know, people who "are not affected" when we see what we have spoken to for decades...

My 2 cents,
Cat in Seattle

Good to hear the second stop went off without incident davidpdx Aug 2015 #1
Sanders cannot be deterred. That's what you want in a reform leader. Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #2
What you said Babel_17 Aug 2015 #52
It's all too clear now: Anyone protesting him is a tool for the oligharchs Populist_Prole Aug 2015 #3
^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Aug 2015 #61
+ a million. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #69
Something is going on fredamae Aug 2015 #88
Set Up: "SOCIAL justice matters, but NOT Economic Justice" 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #109
And if this was a right wing sponsored attack on Bernie it reinforces the idea that A Simple Game Aug 2015 #112
A typical RW tactic is to attack your opponents strengths, it's obvious that's what they're doing. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #118
I remember when we usd to say that about Reagan. bvar22 Aug 2015 #146
Not necessarily. Andrej28 Aug 2015 #90
All too clear these protesters should ... mntleo2 Aug 2015 #115
Perhaps we're all wrong fredamae Aug 2015 #120
interesting that BLM has taken over the stage at invitational events magical thyme Aug 2015 #4
yes that is interesting -eom dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #5
I figured they were going for large crowds AllyCat Aug 2015 #17
Bernie's own events are larger. 15,000+ yesterday, versus just a few thousand magical thyme Aug 2015 #31
Did not know the numbers there. AllyCat Aug 2015 #36
just found an Obama event they disrupted. however, they did not even try to shut it down magical thyme Aug 2015 #47
Sanders is smart in treading the line between being a bully, and not standing up for yourself Babel_17 Aug 2015 #56
a key difference is that the people around Sanders, on both occasions, handed off the microphone magical thyme Aug 2015 #80
I don't know, maybe it's best that it played out to its logical conclusion Babel_17 Aug 2015 #87
"it's logical conclusion?" I don't think it's even close to over yet. magical thyme Aug 2015 #98
Well, for the informal referees in the media Babel_17 Aug 2015 #117
thank you for the link re: red-carding, because I would have had no idea... magical thyme Aug 2015 #121
I'm curious what HRC has done or said that immunizes her from this. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #136
Has she appeared in any public forum since then? nt sunnystarr Aug 2015 #140
Another GREAT point. Sucks to be Bernie, I guess. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #141
+1 appalachiablue Aug 2015 #148
Doesn't get as many people at her rallies? AllyCat Aug 2015 #152
At one point in the video Bernie was standing in the middle of the protesters. Security jwirr Aug 2015 #94
it was too late for security to intercede at that point, without making a really ugly scene. magical thyme Aug 2015 #101
Totally agree. At that point security would have just made it worse. jwirr Aug 2015 #104
The selection of events is very interesting. Although Bernie appears at smaller events appalachiablue Aug 2015 #108
Mindless grandstanding by BlackLivesMatter Evar Aug 2015 #6
because of people like you heaven05 Aug 2015 #9
Why not judge Sanders on his positions & actions... Chef Eric Aug 2015 #11
I am gaining respect for his positions heaven05 Aug 2015 #28
The supporters will not be running the country. AllyCat Aug 2015 #38
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #50
"brown shirt mentality" Babel_17 Aug 2015 #62
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #63
So you are saying "pigshit racists" Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #70
"brownshirt" is not a term to just toss around, imo Babel_17 Aug 2015 #85
Jury results: Shankapotomus Aug 2015 #92
Thanks for the info Babel_17 Aug 2015 #114
"brown shirt mentality" Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #67
some of his supporters are of that mentality heaven05 Aug 2015 #73
Jury voted it was offensive, so you lost. lark Aug 2015 #99
Well, if it's left as it's a reference to the kind of rhetoric that was used Babel_17 Aug 2015 #93
The jury hid it 6-1 Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #97
I watched both of Bernie's Seattle events live. Referencing fascist 'Brown Shirts' is particularly appalachiablue Aug 2015 #113
Yes, a very good hide Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #122
Seems quite a few AA's are losing their minds. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #137
Only a couple Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #138
I was just wondering that myself... Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #139
Those of us who support Bernie Sanders are not racists. His record with regard to racial relations i Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #74
I do not know Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #77
not all of you are racists, true heaven05 Aug 2015 #81
that goes the same the other way you know Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #83
Bernie's positions are not compatible with racism. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #100
That poster obviously has no regard for facts at all. lark Aug 2015 #95
Funny, according to the polls more and more people support Bernei over HRC lark Aug 2015 #91
You're looking for an argument? :) Babel_17 Aug 2015 #75
Will you be going after Hillary then? Vinca Aug 2015 #12
I wouldn't be any fault of mine heaven05 Aug 2015 #13
You imply I'm a Reagan fan and you think I'm insulting you? That's rich. Vinca Aug 2015 #14
I don't know who, what heaven05 Aug 2015 #20
"THANK GOD!!!! on this sunday morning for #BlackLivesMatter and those willing to die..." carla Aug 2015 #29
Now I think you're insulting the majority of posters on this site. Vinca Aug 2015 #124
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #25
That from a Hillary supporter. What's new about your attitude. Nothing. jwirr Aug 2015 #107
The people who stopped Sanders certainly aren't with me. They're carrying water for republicans. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #142
They really shot themselves in both feet. Jester Messiah Aug 2015 #45
+ 1 red dog 1 Aug 2015 #143
FAR OUT that he's getting big crowds! tabasco Aug 2015 #7
saying something like that heaven05 Aug 2015 #15
The comment you replied to was an ugly comment AllyCat Aug 2015 #18
I DO NOT heaven05 Aug 2015 #21
here is something to think about restorefreedom Aug 2015 #86
Because that post wasn't insulting an entire race as you disingenuously claim. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #123
LOL tabasco Aug 2015 #27
Maybe, I won't heaven05 Aug 2015 #30
Why do you say "my candidate?" tabasco Aug 2015 #76
There is a resemblance. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #111
An example of "our real candidate would be...?" Abe Linkon Aug 2015 #34
The New Black Panthers are looking for a few good men. Sign up. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #129
15,000 for Bernie vs. 60/136 for HRC - hmmmm. Divernan Aug 2015 #8
What a disgrace. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2015 #10
aawwww heaven05 Aug 2015 #16
What is that supposed to mean? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2015 #19
He's a HRC supporter who think that dissing Bernie will get his person the win. lark Aug 2015 #102
I don't understand your apparent antagonism about Sanders. olegramps Aug 2015 #24
I am not commenting on BS or his historical background heaven05 Aug 2015 #37
Link to that please Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #44
Go find your own links heaven05 Aug 2015 #51
well since you made the charge Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #55
stay blind and insulated heaven05 Aug 2015 #59
I will not Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #65
you're joking heaven05 Aug 2015 #68
Was that the entire group Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #82
In other words, you're making it up. dangerous dan Aug 2015 #72
precisely. the poster wants to conflate calling out the disruptors with the whole movement nashville_brook Aug 2015 #128
Thanks for your reply. olegramps Aug 2015 #49
No problem with the 'christian' aspect heaven05 Aug 2015 #53
"But here and in other places, they are a sizable portion of his base. I feel." Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #127
It is interesting Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #57
I want to see where someone called a whole race of people shitheads and shithead assholes tularetom Aug 2015 #131
That important and pressing issue has been co-opted and cheapened into an anti-Bernie GoneFishin Aug 2015 #42
+1. I'm seeing people who seem desperate to stir up bad will between white progressives winter is coming Aug 2015 #89
Exactly. A true liberal response, very initially, is "I recognize your grievances, maybe they could GoneFishin Aug 2015 #96
These Interrupters are Agent Provacateurs or Dupes McKim Aug 2015 #22
President Nader had super rallies too. onehandle Aug 2015 #23
Link? tabasco Aug 2015 #26
Look familiar? onehandle Aug 2015 #33
I don't see "President Nader" anywhere in those links. tabasco Aug 2015 #64
Exactly. nt onehandle Aug 2015 #66
Ahhhh, I see. You're equating the independent presidential candidacy of Ralph Nader tabasco Aug 2015 #78
Interesting, is it not Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #84
Bernie isn't running as a 3rd party spoiler. Lunabell Aug 2015 #32
No he isn't. But he is running as 'an alternative.' onehandle Aug 2015 #35
Yes, Lunabell Aug 2015 #40
Isn't every candidate an alternative to another? AllyCat Aug 2015 #41
Everyone running in the Democratic primary--any primary for that matter--is running as an alternativ merrily Aug 2015 #134
Excellent. GO!!!!!!!! heaven05 Aug 2015 #39
You'd really like to see that happen. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2015 #43
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #58
I'm black and I do not get your hatred for Bernie Sanders. JRLeft Aug 2015 #46
I don't "hate" BS heaven05 Aug 2015 #54
I wasn't around can elaborate, what am I missing? JRLeft Aug 2015 #71
Do you think you are helping BLM with your line of argument? Calling everyone racist is not going jwirr Aug 2015 #116
If the cops say 3,000 overflow that means there were more nt LiberalElite Aug 2015 #48
Protest Debchemist Aug 2015 #60
While that is a question worth asking. Does hiring someone who is a POC mean anything when it jwirr Aug 2015 #119
Unfortunately the game has been going on for so azmom Aug 2015 #132
Agreed. When it comes to politics there has to be more proof than just what happens during the jwirr Aug 2015 #150
I think BLM is a movement that is necessary and needed. raven mad Aug 2015 #79
Agreed - but putting juvenile incompetents in charge of local chapters will destroy WestSeattle2 Aug 2015 #126
A New Addition To Sanders' Staff Billsmile Aug 2015 #103
It looks like Bernie's message is starting to threaten Wall St. and the oligarchs. jalan48 Aug 2015 #105
Extremely rude and disrespectful. Disrespectful of the audience as well. Owl Aug 2015 #106
Read thru most of this thread Plucketeer Aug 2015 #110
I Smell A Rat - Re-Posted Yallow Aug 2015 #125
doesn't have much to say about the thousand murders of blacks by blacks for every Eric Garner, Micha Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #130
Facts Are Facts Yallow Aug 2015 #133
Was the "I smell a rat post" yours originally or did you borrow it from someone else? Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #149
Because White Lives Matter Yallow Aug 2015 #151
Young ignorant kids. That's as polite as I can be. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #135
BlackLivesMatter needs to get rid of the paid agent provocateurs who have targeted Sen. Sanders red dog 1 Aug 2015 #144
Bernie reminds me of a martial arts practitioner. The harder the negative, just a slight libdem4life Aug 2015 #145
Is Marissa Janae Johnson being paid by the Republicans to do this? red dog 1 Aug 2015 #147
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