That's the rub, isn't it. (Reply #15) - Democratic Underground

In the discussion thread: UN expands Argentine sovereignty over maritime area [View all]

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:29 PM

forest444 (5,902 posts)

15. That's the rub, isn't it.

The Argentine Coast Guard spends millions each year patrolling and dispersing myriad illegal fishing boats in the area (mainly British and Chinese). Even Greenpeace has condemned the poaching off Argentine shores; but to no avail.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.greenpeace.org/argentina/es/noticias/Greenpeace-denuncia-pesca-ilegal-en-el-Mar-Argentino/&prev=search

Besides the Falklands (of course), guess where most of those boats unload their illegal cargo?

Uruguay.

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48 replies	Author	Time	Post
UN expands Argentine sovereignty over maritime area [View all]	forest444	Mar 2016	OP
It is a very large continental shelf.	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#1
The folks at Google have really outdone themselves with Google Earth.	forest444	Mar 2016	#4
I do think this is correct (pssst: for Uruguay too!).	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#12
That's the rub, isn't it.	forest444	Mar 2016	#15
Ah. Fishing is a very immediate issue	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#17
Beautiful!	forest444	Mar 2016	#23
Yes. Here, I have made very good friends from both countries,	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#24
You're a true man (or lady) of the world.	forest444	Mar 2016	#26
With you too, forest444. Man of the world in no way, except	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#38
The Falklands still have their 200 mile economic zone	hack89	Mar 2016	#2
Well, it means the western half of said zone is now illegal per international laws of the sea.	forest444	Mar 2016	#3
No, that is not what it says	hack89	Mar 2016	#5
That's exactly what it says, whether you know it - and like it - or not.	forest444	Mar 2016	#6
The proper thing would be to let the people of the Falklands decide	hack89	Mar 2016	#7
On the sovereignty dispute perhaps - which this ruling does not impact at all.	forest444	Mar 2016	#8
As regards Diego Garcia, I/we doubt British people, nor governments	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#14
That's a good point.	forest444	Mar 2016	#21
.	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#25
I did!	forest444	Mar 2016	#28
Wasn't the population of Argentina mostly "implanted" from Spain?	Nye Bevan	Mar 2016	#34
During the French Revolutionary years	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#37
Nope. Everything from Argentina to Antarctica is now Argentina's, except for the 12 mile bubble.	Xithras	Mar 2016	#9
Excellent find. Thank you, Xithras.	forest444	Mar 2016	#10
Well, I wouldn't go that far	Xithras	Mar 2016	#13
The part of the UN decision covering seafloor around South Georgia	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#36
Argentina has recognized a 160 mile exclusionary fishing zone around the Falklands	hack89	Mar 2016	#11
Come to some agreement. Naturally.	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#16
I don't know about that. Argentina may be more willing to negotiate now.	Xithras	Mar 2016	#18
I think the big deal for the Falklands is the fisheries	hack89	Mar 2016	#19
You exaggerate, Xithras. There is no connection	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#20
Nope. I copied that map straight off the UN website, right out of the approved proposal.	Xithras	Mar 2016	#22
Ok. "Those claims are independent of the Argentine continental shelf."	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#27
I'm just glad they have Michelle Bachelet there, not some Pinochet grease monkey like Piñera.	forest444	Mar 2016	#29
Yes and no.	Xithras	Mar 2016	#30
I'm guessing the msp comes from Argentins's submission,	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#40
That's insane. That area is bigger than the entirety of Argentina itself. NT	Adrahil	Mar 2016	#35
Guardian: Falkland Islands lie in Argentinian waters, rules UN commission	Judi Lynn	Mar 2016	#31
Excellent update. Thank you, Judi.	forest444	Mar 2016	#32
I think it all just depends on what	christx30	Mar 2016	#33
No the British won't comply forest. Its a non-binding decision of the UN. Britain isn't going	Bacchus4.0	Mar 2016	#44
Here is the UN CLCS press release:	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#39
So Macri and his minister appear to be exaggerating,	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#41
US State Department cable in relation to Argentina's 2009 submission	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#42
So when does the invasion force land for Falklands War II?	Blue_Tires	Mar 2016	#43
Sometime during the middle of one of Cameron's wet dreams.	forest444	Mar 2016	#46
Funny, given how much of a hard-on the Argie gov't has	Blue_Tires	Mar 2016	#47
Flag waving is key to all retail politics.	forest444	Mar 2016	#48
UK Gov speaks:	Ghost Dog	Mar 2016	#45

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