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60. No reason to not include it then in the original claim.

Mon May 9, 2016, 05:21 PM

May 2016

Except the full survey does not support the claim.

To the contrary, it describes a varied Islam with stark differences based on regions alone.

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Pakistani activist murdered after praising London for electing first Muslim mayor Sadiq Khan [View all] oberliner May 2016 OP

horrible. i was about to post a link to a similar article in the Times of India MariaThinks May 2016 #1

Progressives should be leading the fight against Islamic Extremism oberliner May 2016 #2

ironically and tragically, islam clearly kills the progressives and liberals when they get into the MariaThinks May 2016 #3

There is a line between critique of religous extremism and bigotry. Redwoods Red May 2016 #5

i'm not a bigot. i've studied world religions. Does anyone want to answer the following questions? MariaThinks May 2016 #6

still no answer to actual questions. I could bet that there won't be because the written truth is MariaThinks May 2016 #9

This is the answer to all of the those questions: rug May 2016 #17

independent surveys of muslims in counties that allows surveys to be conducted MariaThinks May 2016 #38

Do post them. rug May 2016 #44

here's a link MariaThinks May 2016 #45

Do you have the link to the Pew survey itself? rug May 2016 #47

It's right here leftynyc May 2016 #59

No reason to not include it then in the original claim. rug May 2016 #60

You don't find the crazy high leftynyc May 2016 #89

its so difficult to type in 'pew research muslims' into google. what a find. MariaThinks May 2016 #62

Yes, you should do it before making claims. rug May 2016 #82

support for sharia laws MariaThinks May 2016 #46

You do realize Sharia law is not simply beheadings, don't you? rug May 2016 #48

Could you talk to us about the good parts of Sharia law? snooper2 May 2016 #51

I don't know what "us" you're trying to blend into but I'll give you something to read. rug May 2016 #54

you're the one with bias. 'scholars believe' may be enough for you to be content MariaThinks May 2016 #65

My bias is against bigots. Any bigot. rug May 2016 #67

look in the mirror. you apparently accept beheadings in sharia law MariaThinks May 2016 #72

Is this how you discuss issues? rug May 2016 #74

Okay - here's a question MariaThinks May 2016 #76

Of course I do. Along with the the many others who are being attacked, and not just by religion. rug May 2016 #77

i don't condone military actions. But what is a muslim country? MariaThinks May 2016 #79

Then what do you propose to do about it. rug May 2016 #80

the penalities for human rights abuses should be the same whether we are MariaThinks May 2016 #81

How do you propose to deal with them? rug May 2016 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author MariaThinks May 2016 #78

but you realize it includes beheadings and stoning. MariaThinks May 2016 #63

Sure it does. But it;s not a monolith in theory or practice. rug May 2016 #64

you are right, i cannot accept beheadings and stonings MariaThinks May 2016 #66

Oh get off your high horse. rug May 2016 #71

look in the mirror. anyone who critisizes the barbaric practices in islam is labelled a bigot by you MariaThinks May 2016 #73

No, anyone who lumps a billion people together, stupidly, isI label a bigot. rug May 2016 #75

You're wasting your time mate. Bad Dog May 2016 #101

She's lost the plot. rug May 2016 #103

Agreed Bad Dog May 2016 #104

Have you seen this one from The Onion? Violet_Crumble May 2016 #123

I must admit I don't read the Onion. Bad Dog May 2016 #125

I'll bet not... TipTok May 2016 #23

To answer your questions regarding Muslims. sulphurdunn May 2016 #28

they do not apply to Christians and Jews. that mistruth is no longer effective. MariaThinks May 2016 #37

The truth is alway easier sulphurdunn May 2016 #49

You clearly are, actually Scootaloo May 2016 #128

Violent religious fanatacism, supremacism and intolerance sulphurdunn May 2016 #7

i've asked about one specific religion and their beliefs. Is it possible to get straight answers? MariaThinks May 2016 #12

But only one leftynyc May 2016 #19

Fortunately, sulphurdunn May 2016 #25

But they're not leftynyc May 2016 #26

Well, if we concentrate on what's actually happening sulphurdunn May 2016 #29

But trying to pretend leftynyc May 2016 #30

Comparisons are neither true nor false. sulphurdunn May 2016 #32

FALSE comparisons leftynyc May 2016 #33

I like you GummyBearz May 2016 #34

But for the colonial aspirations sulphurdunn May 2016 #35

Well leftynyc May 2016 #40

A hateful generalization sulphurdunn May 2016 #50

Nope leftynyc May 2016 #53

Nope, the goddamn story sulphurdunn May 2016 #57

I think it's adorable leftynyc May 2016 #58

There are, as of this post, 89 comments sulphurdunn May 2016 #86

Nothing but crap leftynyc May 2016 #88

Look at reply #3 again - further up this sub-thread muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #90

Therer is a ton of truth leftynyc May 2016 #91

Oh, so you think Islam is a monolithic bloc that kills liberals, then? muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #92

Spare me the drama leftynyc May 2016 #96

You said there was a 'lot of truth' in #3 muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #97

What part of leftynyc May 2016 #98

You're moving your goalposts muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #99

Not at all leftynyc May 2016 #100

Not only a broad-brush, but they seem to be ignoring Indonesia... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #94

By all means leftynyc May 2016 #102

That doesn't support the claim made in post #3 Violet_Crumble May 2016 #109

I also think no religion should have leftynyc May 2016 #112

Also, it's nothing to do with "killing progressives and liberals", the claim you supported muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #113

Are the places that isis leftynyc May 2016 #114

If you're going to equate ISIS with 'Islam' - the subject of #3 - muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #115

Yes - I maintain there is a TON of truth leftynyc May 2016 #116

You don't seem to understand what the word 'kill' means muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #117

So THAT'S your problem with that post? leftynyc May 2016 #118

My problem with it is that it's a lie muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #119

You were saying? leftynyc May 2016 #121

They were saying that post #3 was a lie... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #122

No - I never used the word lie leftynyc May 2016 #124

I never said you used the word lie... Violet_Crumble May 2016 #126

No - what's happening here leftynyc May 2016 #127

That has that hint of... TipTok May 2016 #22

The poor dears couldn't help themselves. US foreign policy made them do it!!! Coventina May 2016 #4

murdering barbarians MariaThinks May 2016 #10

If anybody gives a damn ... Jopin Klobe May 2016 #8

its what a religion that thinks killing is a way to martyrdom and MariaThinks May 2016 #11

The "religions are equal" excuse is clear deflection. romanic May 2016 #13

i completely agree with you. anyone who cares about people and lives cannot keep MariaThinks May 2016 #14

You are right on target, Maria. Akicita May 2016 #16

+1000 smirkymonkey May 2016 #18

+1000 leftynyc May 2016 #20

hear, hear Akicita May 2016 #15

A very clear delfection leftynyc May 2016 #21

they will be the ones executed by the radicals MariaThinks May 2016 #39

You don't need religion sulphurdunn May 2016 #31

They aren't all equal... TipTok May 2016 #24

Bangladesh and Pakistan seem to be thinning their herds lately 6chars May 2016 #27

islamists destory the moderate voices that come ouand scare anyone who is even thinking about coming MariaThinks May 2016 #41

I kind of wish the west would support the liberal voices 6chars May 2016 #56

i agree with you MariaThinks May 2016 #61

I don't understand how some of the same liberals and progressives who are outraged by this killing Akicita May 2016 #36

that's a good question. Fear, stupidity? MariaThinks May 2016 #42

Even though homosexuality may be illegal in the countries they are fleeing, shouldn't refugees be Akicita May 2016 #43

there is an incredible amount of ignorance at play MariaThinks May 2016 #68

You should find one and ask them muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #52

You're right. I read about the Swedish progressives being outraged about the gay pride march and I Akicita May 2016 #55

very elloquently put. The caring response was not outrage at the killing but rather outrage at you MariaThinks May 2016 #70

Is this the march in Sweden yr referring to? Violet_Crumble May 2016 #95

who are you to tell someone else what they can and can't post? MariaThinks May 2016 #69

That poster seems to agree that there's not much chance of their post here muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #84

Weak. Akicita May 2016 #85

we're supposed to respect religious garbage Skittles May 2016 #87

A few words from the new mayor: Denzil_DC May 2016 #93

There ought to be a way to strengthen liberal followers of Islam oberliner May 2016 #105

Yes. Denzil_DC May 2016 #106

Agreed oberliner May 2016 #107

Well, one can discuss Islam, and/or one can discuss Muslims. Denzil_DC May 2016 #108

Republicans aren't monolithic either oberliner May 2016 #110

I really fail to see how criticism (often blanket) of Islam Denzil_DC May 2016 #111

Fair enough oberliner May 2016 #120