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cynzke

(1,254 posts)
32. SUNDAY QUARTERBACKING!
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jun 2016

Bits and pieces of info are filtering out with little scrutiny. The FBI conducted two investigations on Mateen and there was no evidence this man was CONNECTED to/had ANY link to a foreign terrorist group or that he posed a terrorist threat to this country ("FBI Special Agent in Charge Ronald Hopper said today that the FBI had taken an interest in Mateen twice: first in 2013 after he made "inflammatory" comments to co-workers and then again the next year after he was linked to another U.S. radical who became a suicide bomber in Syria. Mateen was interviewed by investigators three times in relation to the probes but, in both cases, the FBI determined Mateen was not a threat and closed the investigations, Hopper said. He was not under investigation OR surveillance at the time of the shooting, Hopper said.&quot .

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/what-we-know-about-omar-mateen-suspected-orlando-nightclub-shooter

If you read the various news stories, Mateen is being HYPED as an Islamic Terrorist, whose motive was to commit terrorism against the US.......highly EXAGGERATED. In reality, so far, Mateen was a homophobic sicko who hated gays enough to carry out this heinous act of mass murder. In recent history he saw two men kissing and bought weapons. That is MORE relevant to his motives than trying to hype this into some international act of Islamic terrorism. Mateen, well aware of the issue, saw an opportunity to turn what was a HOMOPHOBIC, pathetic, sick HATE crime, get it hyped INTO a wild speculative act of international terrorism. He executed his IDEA while in the nightclub by calling 911. Look how well it worked. Instead of going down in history as a homophobic mass murderer, he will be infamous world wide as an Islamic terrorist. Mateen accomplished two things successfully. Murdered gays whom he hated and triggered America's paranoia which is now fueling this sad incident into something far more insidious. All this speculation/hype is playing right into the hands of ISIS. Their calls to the "lone wolves" are working And our paranoia and fear will ENCOURAGE true radical Islamic's to carry out attacks.

Employed by G4S since 2007 according to Jeremy Scahill quoting Palm Beach Post. proverbialwisdom Jun 2016 #1
And whose bright idea was that. ancianita Jun 2016 #3
Good God, wikipedia says they're a Brit firm merged with a Denmark firm which makes them ancianita Jun 2016 #10
I wonder if G4S even gets some Homeland dept's money though it's a Brit company. ancianita Jun 2016 #13
GS4 ran the security for the 2012 Democratic and Republican conventions AntiBank Jun 2016 #17
Wonder what the GOP thinks of its company hire now. This guy's been floating through ancianita Jun 2016 #18
perhaps, but we all know that the party who holds the POTUS gets the blame for shit AntiBank Jun 2016 #19
Yep. It's on Obama's watch. He's got to zero in on how watch list people get off, among ancianita Jun 2016 #20
When they said "security guard" I thought mall cop, not international mercenary army! alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #25
He was little more than a mall cop. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #27
Is he still on the secret terrorist watch list? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #2
No. He leveraged credibility based on his citizenship to somehow work for an ally's mercenary ancianita Jun 2016 #11
Thank God he was on a watch list and still had his second amendment rights Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #4
That watch list should be made public IronLionZion Jun 2016 #7
It's probably not so that people on the list are not forewarned of their surveillance. ancianita Jun 2016 #14
He had also been in contact with a person who redstateblues Jun 2016 #5
Huge fail. 840high Jun 2016 #22
In that case you are right, it was a complete break down that he was able to get around still_one Jun 2016 #29
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Jun 2016 #6
It is mind boggling how easy it is to get a gun. Good start is the test and safety class. Can't we Person 2713 Jun 2016 #33
One thing: FBI heads should roll for this. The FBI is the central manager of the TDSB, the ancianita Jun 2016 #8
Somebody let the ball drop still_one Jun 2016 #30
Sorry but maybe a few less FBI agents on email server watch and more on terrorist watch please... winstars Jun 2016 #9
This kind of fuckup of intel/FBI communications now makes us appear vulnerable to the ancianita Jun 2016 #12
Not to politicize this myself, but this does look as if it could get TrumpTheFascist more votes. ancianita Jun 2016 #15
Of the more than one million entries in the TIDE as of 2013, around 21,000 are Americans. ancianita Jun 2016 #16
I wonder if the good folks at the gun forums are claiming "Obama False Flag" on this one too. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #21
He was also employed by global security firm G4s since 2007. bjo59 Jun 2016 #23
Thanks GOP ~NRA Cryptoad Jun 2016 #24
you cant stop crazy - not now - not EVER NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #26
The watch list needs to be tweaked obviously. romanic Jun 2016 #28
FBI too busy investigating emails nt soilopen Jun 2016 #31
SUNDAY QUARTERBACKING! cynzke Jun 2016 #32
FBI with a big Fail. sarcasmo Jun 2016 #34
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