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16. This story indicates that our SOS is full of neolibs and neocons

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Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:45 PM

Jun 2016

Obama must be having a hell of a time containing it.

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U.S. State Department Officials Call for Strikes Against Syria’s Assad [View all] arendt Jun 2016 OP

Can't wait to see what HRC says about this. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #1

She's made herself clear enough JackRiddler Jun 2016 #70

obama is sane on this DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #2

This story indicates that our SOS is full of neolibs and neocons newthinking Jun 2016 #16

State department, not Secretary of State karynnj Jun 2016 #91

These are her people speaking. We'll be at war with Iran and possibly Russia within a year. leveymg Jun 2016 #3

Do you know them by name, or just assumming based on the story? nt arendt Jun 2016 #4

Yes. There are many neocons ensconced permanently at State. leveymg Jun 2016 #9

You're aware that HRC brought in Nuland (a Neocon) and newthinking Jun 2016 #12

This Why I Can't Vote for Her McKim Jun 2016 #48

Ditto. I will not live with the guilt! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #55

Victoria Nuland channels Cheney. Octafish Jun 2016 #19

Clinton's always said that the Syrian rebels need more guns, more money MisterP Jun 2016 #29

Ms. Powers got a nice award. Octafish Jun 2016 #18

How perfectly appropriate. I'm sure she's earned it. nt leveymg Jun 2016 #20

Big Time. Octafish Jun 2016 #37

And State Dept Humanitarian Affairs shouldn't be confused with Medicines sans Frontiers. leveymg Jun 2016 #46

Bull's Eye on Damascus Octafish Jun 2016 #51

You've seen this Clinton-era DOS email release? "The best way to help Israel . . . leveymg Jun 2016 #84

Nauseating. amandabeech Jun 2016 #107

No doubt. 840high Jun 2016 #34

Putin is looking for a war, but we do not need to start it for him. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #5

We are calling Al Quida "our rebels" arendt Jun 2016 #6

I never said they were good guys. They are rebels, who want a government that acts in their Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #10

They are fundamentalist lunatics who aren't even from there pottedplant Jun 2016 #25

A mass murderer who bombs women and children and used chemical warfare Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #33

In a civil war that other countries pottedplant Jun 2016 #42

The fact that other dictators have committed mass murder of their own peole Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #47

Oh Please, This War is Not about those Familiies! McKim Jun 2016 #49

So oil pipeline bad, bombs and poison gas on Assad's own civilians good? Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #52

The poison gas was debunked long ago. Let's just throw in "Weapons of Mass Destruction" too. newthinking Jun 2016 #58

Bull shit. Assad is mass murderer, slaughtering his own people, and Putin is a gggling Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #62

Just ignore Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and all the Wahabi-ist terrorists arendt Jun 2016 #64

Assad started by murdering peaceful protesters that wanted more say in the government. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #66

You think Assad's government is "legitimate"? ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #115

Who do you think the majority of Syrians support? pottedplant Jun 2016 #117

Pick up a history book pottedplant Jun 2016 #65

How about sticking the subject and discuss war criminal in Syria. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #67

he has every right to defend his country. pottedplant Jun 2016 #68

He does not have every right to murder his citizens. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #69

Its a CIVIL war and a PROXY war arendt Jun 2016 #73

Abe Lincoln did not bomb civilians Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #77

you don't get to hijack my thread arendt Jun 2016 #86

Your complete refusal to address Assad's war crimes and murders Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #88

Keep banging that shoe on the table. I'm sure someone will listen. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #89

You are basically pushing a pro-war neocon line ... mallard Jun 2016 #122

The poison gas was not debunked no matter what karynnj Jun 2016 #92

Who to believe, Pulitzer Prize winner, or you? Duh. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #104

The Red Line and The Rat Line newthinking Jun 2016 #119

Al Nusra are NOT our guys - they are explicitly not included in the cessation of hostilities karynnj Jun 2016 #14

They are all from the branch of Wahabism which is why they have mixed together newthinking Jun 2016 #15

You ignore that Assad is responsible for the highest numbers of deaths karynnj Jun 2016 #17

Overall, it's still roughly 50/50. No reason to tip the balance leveymg Jun 2016 #21

There are more than 2 factions - unless you lump the rebels considered in the agreement, ISIS and karynnj Jun 2016 #23

ISIS is just al Nusra that mutated out of AQI. It will metastasize again into leveymg Jun 2016 #26

Wrong. Assad and Putin have had success against isis pottedplant Jun 2016 #30

Agree 100%. 840high Jun 2016 #35

Wow, how much power do the Neocons have? Holy moley newthinking Jun 2016 #7

Apparently state department employees can circulate policy proposals and leak them to the press Monk06 Jun 2016 #38

There is a channel set up for dissent on policy karynnj Jun 2016 #93

I am inclined the other way I think Hilary would have these peoples heads on a platter for trying Monk06 Jun 2016 #113

I would suggest that they would not be dissenting from her position karynnj Jun 2016 #114

They are insane. Just as they believe we can win a Nuclear war. newthinking Jun 2016 #8

I'm all for it. Let's start WWIII and get it over with. Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #11

War's what the economy craves. Octafish Jun 2016 #22

George Mason University is a largely commuter school in Northern Virginia located amandabeech Jun 2016 #109

Thank you! Octafish Jun 2016 #112

Regime change makes no sense pottedplant Jun 2016 #13

"It serves the usual suspects to have a destabilized oppressed region." ronnie624 Jun 2016 #24

Thanks for the Bigger Picture McKim Jun 2016 #50

No. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever christx30 Jun 2016 #27

Duck & cover. eom WheelWalker Jun 2016 #28

Where's Kerry in all of this? WhiteTara Jun 2016 #31

Mr Kirby said US Secretary of State John Kerry "values and respects" the device, GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #32

This makes me sick. We 840high Jun 2016 #36

Assuming this is not WSJ being inventive: Fire them all now. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #39

They are protected by civil service. former9thward Jun 2016 #87

That is a bullshit RW talking point seabeckind Jun 2016 #94

BS. former9thward Jun 2016 #95

And you are more informed than someone who wrote the HR memos? seabeckind Jun 2016 #97

OK Bernie, I'll get right on it. former9thward Jun 2016 #98

I didn't figure you had anything. seabeckind Jun 2016 #100

Bernie, who are you choosing for your VP? former9thward Jun 2016 #101

Keep digging. Your chewing gum is in that chicken coop somewhere. seabeckind Jun 2016 #102

You can remove the political patronage SES who serve at the pleasure of the President. 24601 Jun 2016 #123

Thanks for that pile of irrelevant information seabeckind Jun 2016 #124

If you are going to characterize what I said, please have the integrity to be truthful in the future 24601 Jun 2016 #125

I didn't say it was wrong. seabeckind Jun 2016 #126

Reporter to State Dept: Some Officials Fear Authors of Critical Syria Memo Are Risking Careers bemildred Jun 2016 #106

For what, having a different opinion from you? anigbrowl Jun 2016 #118

They are trying to sandbag him in public while he is down dealing with the Orlando tragedy. bemildred Jun 2016 #120

Agreed, but I'm not sure that's a firing offense anigbrowl Jun 2016 #121

What is the End Game? One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #40

The end game Cayenne Jun 2016 #80

Neither Putin nor any subsequent Russian leader will give up that port at Tarsus. amandabeech Jun 2016 #110

Which country would benefit from this. Jesus Malverde Jun 2016 #41

Reddit comments on this: bemildred Jun 2016 #43

Classic! They can't even split their hypocrisy and lies across two sentences now! Nihil Jun 2016 #44

As opposed to Russia, which is in the full-blown Fascist stage? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #45

Yeah, those mid and high level guys are all career guys. Most likely started under Bush II tonyt53 Jun 2016 #53

We are lucky the President does not want war to be his legacy! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #54

SHTF in weeks, not next year Cayenne Jun 2016 #81

I hope not Cayenne! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #116

Where are all those Hillary supporters at? nolabels Jun 2016 #56

They're playing inside a bubble and pretend this isn't happening and HRC's role in creating leveymg Jun 2016 #57

Didn't you hear? Hillary just criticized the Saudis. Ikonoklast Jun 2016 #60

The future of this world is in serious jeopardy. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #59

Assad is a monster Marrah_G Jun 2016 #61

You don't even have the lying propaganda line straight arendt Jun 2016 #63

Syria is a massive clusterfuck Marrah_G Jun 2016 #71

It is truly hard. Some of that is down to the complexity of the situation arendt Jun 2016 #75

here is a link to blow everyone's mind. Marrah_G Jun 2016 #78

thanks for that. really, really sad waste. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #85

Just for the record: Nowhere in my post did I accuse you of calling for more war. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #76

Okay, thank you for clarifying that. Marrah_G Jun 2016 #79

Hillary Clinton will try to take out Assad. ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #72

And she will right into a bunch of S-400 missile systems... arendt Jun 2016 #74

Events are moving much faster Cayenne Jun 2016 #82

Career State folks, or are the political appointees???? Doubtful it is the career folks. 4139 Jun 2016 #83

I think they are the career professionals karynnj Jun 2016 #99

Hopefully.... Xolodno Jun 2016 #90

Ready to fight to the last drop of somebody else's blood. seabeckind Jun 2016 #103

I have always held the position seabeckind Jun 2016 #96

Obama, despite dissent on Syria, not shifting toward strikes on Assad bemildred Jun 2016 #105

US in talks with Russia after it bombed US-backed rebels in Syria bemildred Jun 2016 #108

Ain't it Funny? Night Watchman Jun 2016 #111