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The Velveteen Ocelot

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7. The Russian government is basically a criminal enterprise.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:11 PM
Mar 2017

It's like the Mafia, only way bigger and richer. The "oligarchs" (dictionary definition: "a person who belongs to a small group of people who govern or control a country&quot in Russia are extremely wealthy business people who are rich because of their connections to the government - and government officials like Putin and Medvedev are rich because of their connections with the oligarchy. It's really all part of the same system. It's safe to say that the wealthiest people in Russia did not become wealthy because of their business acumen but because they were in bed with Putin et al. For years they have been siphoning off the money generated by Russia's oil and gas production, the only significant source of wealth in Russia.

So: If you are doing business in Russia that involves any substantial financial transactions, you can be pretty damn sure that your business partners are criminals, and that by doing business with them you are becoming part of their enterprise. I'd bet kroner to kruggerands that what SCROTUS and his minions are trying so hard to cover up is not just the Russians' attempts at electronic election-rigging, but the underlying financial crimes that are likely part of the quid pro quo - or blackmail. Putin wants to help Trump win because he thinks Trump will lift the sanctions, but he has leverage as well. Far more damaging than the golden showers kompromat is what the Russians probably have on him related to to financial matters. The answer to just about any complex investigation can be found if you follow the money - this was also true of Watergate. The financial crimes are likely to be along the lines of tax evasion, money laundering and racketeering. Why doesn't SCROTUS want to disclose his tax returns? Probably as much on account of what's not in them as what is.

Tie up the relationships among Manafort, Carter Page, Flynn, etc., and now Kushner, the bankers in Cyprus, Russia and Ukraine, Ambassador Kislyak....

republican Draft-&-Tax Dodger-in-Chief selling out America Achilleaze Mar 2017 #1
I CAN'T BELIEVE I AM AGREEING WITH DICK CHENEY trueblue2007 Mar 2017 #13
Me too! red dog 1 Mar 2017 #34
I know this isn't true because... Blanks Mar 2017 #2
Lock him up! nt ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #3
Survival bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #4
You just described the Republican Party True Blue American Mar 2017 #37
USA Today has been doing good work on this...lately... blitzen Mar 2017 #5
Good point. kstewart33 Mar 2017 #6
The Russian government is basically a criminal enterprise. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #7
Good analysis. Follow the money. nt GliderGuider Mar 2017 #15
Indeed Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2017 #21
Yes, and Russian investments in NYC real estate are part of this too. yardwork Mar 2017 #22
Pretty well put... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #25
The Russian government reads like mob fascism meow2u3 Mar 2017 #27
Eastern European Criminal Organizations have their hooks into Russia government JonLP24 Mar 2017 #30
+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2017 #35
One of my favorite Sec's of Defense, James Forrestal once said elmac Mar 2017 #8
The National Enquirer Said tRump had Found Moscow's Agent in the White House. Wolf Frankula Mar 2017 #9
Frustrating, but thank you for the link BadgerMom Mar 2017 #10
Too busy talking about Hillary's emails. yardwork Mar 2017 #20
But...but...isn't this Russia stuff all just lies by the Deep State????? ehrnst Mar 2017 #11
Greenwald 👎🏻 BadgerMom Mar 2017 #28
Yep. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2017 #31
Very important. H2O Man Mar 2017 #12
You're welcome. kstewart33 Mar 2017 #14
They are. H2O Man Mar 2017 #16
And, thanks to assholes who couldn't bear to vote Democratic, Congress will do nothing. yardwork Mar 2017 #19
Nunez basically torpedoed the House investigation... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #26
Well worth reading- great details about large number of criminals tied to Trump & Co. wishstar Mar 2017 #17
Trump bragging about business deals with Russian oligarchs. yardwork Mar 2017 #18
Think it's related to today's arrests? SticksnStones Mar 2017 #23
Trump's ties to the mob go way back Botany Mar 2017 #24
And tomorrow, Dr. Maddow is going to say cilla4progress Mar 2017 #29
k and r and bookmarking for later. only so much ugly I can handle before lunch. niyad Mar 2017 #32
The republicians have tied a boat anchor to their necks -- when will they cut the line? Dorn Mar 2017 #33
When will the GOP-controlled Congress finally DO something about all this? red dog 1 Mar 2017 #36
kick KewlKat Mar 2017 #38
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