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30. IANAL, but... I don't think so. Impeachment is not a criminal proceeding.

Thu Jul 20, 2017, 10:27 PM

Jul 2017

Lawrence is talking about it now. Accepting a pardon implies an admission of guilt. If Trump pardons, say, Kushner, it would pretty much destroy him not testifying using the 5th, since, having been pardoned, there would be no jeopardy attached to incriminating himself.

A pardon would not stop Impeachment, since getting fired from a job is not the same as a trial for breaking a law.

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K&R Solly Mack Jul 2017 #1

Well, pardon me, but if that isn't s conflict of interest truthisfreedom Jul 2017 #2

Pardon whom of what, LOSER 45? DO TELL!! nt Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #3

It's a family thing. herding cats Jul 2017 #9

Maybe just MAYbe, cats!? Then again - nah! Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #17

Well they can't be pardoned unless they're GUILTY FakeNoose Jul 2017 #54

Oligarchy or Bust! is Trump's motto now. TeamPooka Jul 2017 #4

BUT BUT BUT, Trump hasn't done anything wrong, it is fake news. Thinkingabout Jul 2017 #5

He sure is trying..... SergeStorms Jul 2017 #20

Hmmm, from link: "team spokesman, Mark Corallo, resigned on Thursday...": Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #6

Imagine if Mueller some how magically heard this and knew who to indict first? herding cats Jul 2017 #7

IF........ SergeStorms Jul 2017 #21

He probably needs to get them all at once. GoCubsGo Jul 2017 #28

k&r DesertRat Jul 2017 #8

Every argument they make borders on total lunacy. byronius Jul 2017 #10

An old joke my father claims to have created PJMcK Jul 2017 #11

The Congressional republicans keep giving trump and company a free pass, and 2018 keeps still_one Jul 2017 #12

I wonder if this is why Mark Corallo resigned? nt elmac Jul 2017 #13

How'd I miss that news? Nwgirl503 Jul 2017 #16

Yep. That's what I think. Corallo is a big Mueller fan, & apparently thought that T was not guilty. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #36

Per Madow elmac Jul 2017 #14

Rachel is on it. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #15

Shocked ouija Jul 2017 #19

Traitor Tyrant Pig's Sat Night Massacre may be a Thursday Night Massacre MarinCoUSA Jul 2017 #18

Headline is now: "Trump team seeks to control, block Muellers Russia investigation" janx Jul 2017 #22

New WaPost headline: Trump team seeks to control, block Muellers Russia investigation riversedge Jul 2017 #23

Bing! janx Jul 2017 #27

I'm no legal expert, Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #24

IANAL, but... I don't think so. Impeachment is not a criminal proceeding. Stonepounder Jul 2017 #30

Good point about Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #32

I think you first have to be convicted, or plead guilty, to be pardoned. Oops. No, you don't. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #34

let's consider that Mueller and his team are basically doing the legwork luvtheGWN Jul 2017 #44

If Mueller is fired, Schiff has already said they'd just appoint an independent counsel. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #46

They're going after Mueller to limit him. Bet they sue & take it to the (friendly) S.Ct. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #25

Yep. The answers are in the financial records. Maddow says if T gets new A.G., AG can fire Mueller. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #26

Step in with a strongly worded letter of concern central scrutinizer Jul 2017 #29

I hope that's not the case. Schiff seemed pretty definite that if Mueller is fired... Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #31

Schiff is in the minority. Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #35

He was so sure and said "we," so I'm guessing that it's been discussed. That's a line T can't cross. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #37

Lets not be naive Cosmocat Jul 2017 #51

No. As I said, it was more than that, what I heard on tv. What I saw in print was softened a bit. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #52

Nope Cosmocat Jul 2017 #53

But it he fires Sessions, Stonepounder Jul 2017 #33

Trump would appoint a new AG. Rosenstein would act as AG, but not long. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #38

But, as stated above, Stonepounder Jul 2017 #41

And a strongly worded donation letter Nevernose Jul 2017 #55

What kind of idiot do you have to be... Ftrump Jul 2017 #39

Welcome to DU. You have a spare "ed" I think. Ed could use it. rzemanfl Jul 2017 #40

Thanks! Ftrump Jul 2017 #43

That's fine, but you can edit a post. I find myself having to do it all the time. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #45

Simple, Ftrump. He thought that 'President' was same as 'Total Dictator'. Stonepounder Jul 2017 #42

On Lawrence O: Mueller probably aready has Trump's tax returns flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #47

It's all very simple bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Jul 2017 #49

Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #50

Simply, a curiosity. Control-Z Jul 2017 #56