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Zen Democrat

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25. It's getting bound up with military right-wing nationalism -- and GOD.

Reply to berni_mccoy (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 08:00 PM

Jan 2018

I remember asking, decades ago, why there was a prayer before high school football games and was told it was to pray for the safety of the players. My first thought was, if safety is the concern just don't play football! There are broken bones and torn ligaments across this nation, so was God not listening?

The old codgers who demand respect for the flag have forgotten America's core principles - the Bill of Rights. Our veterans didn't fight and die so people would be forced to stand for the flag and sing the national anthem. America didn't have a national anthem until the 1930's (I think Herbert Hoover signed it into law). This is a bunch of hooey. I love to sing the national anthem, but just don'g tell me I have to or I won't.

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NFL Rejected a 'Please Stand' Ad, Veterans Group Says [View all] DonViejo Jan 2018 OP

Good for the NFL Abouttime Jan 2018 #1

good ! stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #2

the NFL and AMvets both have freedom of speech cvoogt Jan 2018 #3

In fairness the NFL caused this when they accepted DoD funding for advertising dollars. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #16

I was told by my veteran family member recently withoutapaddle Jan 2018 #21

My parents were very patriotic MountCleaners Jan 2018 #27

They need to get over it SoCalNative Jan 2018 #4

Compromise. Play the ad, but not at the beginning, between two amusing beer ads. Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #5

In the 4th quarter (n/t) PJMcK Jan 2018 #11

Goodell knows feigned indignation against the protests isn't good for ratings. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #6

I thought the networks sold advertising, not the NFL. What gives? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2018 #7

"Veterans are good for more than just military flyovers, photo opportunities during halftime, WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2018 #8

Just a clarification: This is a print ad for the game program, not a TV ad. nt ExciteBike66 Jan 2018 #9

Ahhhh. Thanks. In that case, amazingly, I agree with the NFL Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #12

Why does this group think they can make a private business submit to their demands? procon Jan 2018 #10

good for the NFL - it's usually more liberal ads NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #13

...and they wonder why the young are not joining these backward organizations. Dawson Leery Jan 2018 #14

I'm not going to stand just because some pissy-faced American Legion stooge Aristus Jan 2018 #15

Some veterans are extremely confused about what they are fighting for... vkkv Jan 2018 #17

NOT A FREE SPEECH ISSUE RandomAccess Jan 2018 #18

No one is arguing otherwise... LanternWaste Jan 2018 #22

Oh yes, the Veterans group is RandomAccess Jan 2018 #23

Good, and while they're at it, end the flyovers. LisaM Jan 2018 #19

Good! Owl Jan 2018 #20

To Nationalist Nut Jobs: PLEASE STOP! PLEASE, FOR FUCKS SAKE, STOP! berni_mccoy Jan 2018 #24

It's getting bound up with military right-wing nationalism -- and GOD. Zen Democrat Jan 2018 #25

It's a football game for crying out loud C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #26