No Question here - This was an illegal seizure (Reply #84)

In the discussion thread: Trump doc says Trump bodyguard, lawyer 'raided' his office, took medical files [View all]

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Tue May 1, 2018, 02:04 PM

HopeAgain (4,407 posts)

84. No Question here - This was an illegal seizure

This is my area of training - the actual record BELONGS TO THE DOCTOR. Trump has some control over who the information in the chart is released to, but the actual paper record is not Trump's property. This doctor can, and should, sue for a civil rights violation because I am sure they purported to be officially acting on behalf of the POTUS.

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113 replies	Author	Time	Post
Trump doc says Trump bodyguard, lawyer 'raided' his office, took medical files [View all]	herding cats	May 2018	OP
is there anything left to say about this common thug, other than wow. just wow.	pnwest	May 2018	#1
This message was self-deleted by its author	sfwriter	May 2018	#4
k and r..nt	Stuart G	May 2018	#2
This message was self-deleted by its author	sfwriter	May 2018	#3
What's illegal about a patient	leftynyc	May 2018	#6
There are procedures to obtain medical records	bucolic_frolic	May 2018	#14
The doctor should not have revealed confidential patient	exboyfil	May 2018	#16
This message was self-deleted by its author	erronis	May 2018	#18
This message was self-deleted by its author	sfwriter	May 2018	#23
Shrug	leftynyc	May 2018	#26
When it comes to normalizing Trump	John Fante	May 2018	#55
I'm sorry,	Cold War Spook	May 2018	#75
I think anyone who is counting	leftynyc	May 2018	#79
They didn't give a writtern consent form	Cold War Spook	May 2018	#81
The doctor's practice	Blackjackdavey	May 2018	#89
As I posted	True Blue American	May 2018	#53
This is thuggish mob-style behavior the way I'm reading it.	KY_EnviroGuy	May 2018	#54
Oh, and thank you for sharing that expertise.	KY_EnviroGuy	May 2018	#62
It is illegal to take files	True Blue American	May 2018	#38
You're kidding right ?	kacekwl	May 2018	#57
What is LEGAL about the thugs going through the doctor's paper files,	pnwmom	May 2018	#70
They didn't ask for them, they took them	angrychair	May 2018	#94
*	DownFromTheMountain	May 2018	#102
Ya that's NOT how you do request for release of medical information...	Volaris	May 2018	#49
So what?	leftynyc	May 2018	#5
By law, by federal law, medical records may not be released without a signed consent	GusBob	May 2018	#9
I don't see where they didn't have	leftynyc	May 2018	#10
Without a signed record release, signed by the patient, there is no authority	GusBob	May 2018	#15
Not exactly	leftynyc	May 2018	#20
Let me try a different approach, from my personal experience	GusBob	May 2018	#31
No - they weren't HER records	leftynyc	May 2018	#34
Yay! you get it!	GusBob	May 2018	#41
You don't think he	leftynyc	May 2018	#76
Good lord dude	GusBob	May 2018	#90
I'm assuming he did have the proper forms	leftynyc	May 2018	#106
Oh it gets worse than the average person could ever imagine	GusBob	May 2018	#107
Did he have a signed consent? If not, it was illegal.	uppityperson	May 2018	#98
Perhaps	leftynyc	May 2018	#105
Being a healthcare professional, I do give a crap. Beyond potential HIPAA violation, state law requi	uppityperson	May 2018	#109
This message was self-deleted by its author	.99center	May 2018	#44
That 'authority' still requires a legal stipulation, a general power of attorney	procon	May 2018	#30
EXACTLY to purge the records	get the red out	May 2018	#61
Beat me to it! Dotard ordered them to do it..	Thekaspervote	May 2018	#80
You are right on the hair	True Blue American	May 2018	#39
Trump is obsessed with his hair. He views baldness as a weakness	GusBob	May 2018	#46
I think there is much more to hide	True Blue American	May 2018	#51
bald SPOT?	Kali	May 2018	#52
A Venetian disease?	The Velveteen Ocelot	May 2018	#78
It also can leave you blind! N/T	Orange Free State	May 2018	#99
The story is the how and why of the retrieval.	herding cats	May 2018	#12
Any NYer could have told you	leftynyc	May 2018	#17
Oh, I'm sure the state of New York knew how he rolls...	herding cats	May 2018	#35
Yes, any patient can get COPIES of their medical records, but they are not	procon	May 2018	#13
That's interesting.	herding cats	May 2018	#22
Patients can also physically examine and look at their original files.	procon	May 2018	#37
Thugs invaded Doctors office and took (stole!) the original records. eviction from 'free' 5th st is	Sunlei	May 2018	#32
this is the doc who wrote that phony bs report on him last year?	niyad	May 2018	#7
After installation as "president"?	Cracklin Charlie	May 2018	#8
WTF are you talking about?	leftynyc	May 2018	#11
A copy not the office owned paperwork short of a Court Order	exboyfil	May 2018	#19
Right!	True Blue American	May 2018	#42
Entitled to a COPY of their own medical records	bucolic_frolic	May 2018	#21
I did	leftynyc	May 2018	#24
Uh huh	atreides1	May 2018	#36
LeftyNY: you seem obsessed by this. I work with EHR/EMR, HIPAA, PHI/PII	erronis	May 2018	#25
Obsessed?	leftynyc	May 2018	#29
Why the thugs, then?	Cracklin Charlie	May 2018	#43
trumps hiding some addiction problem. No worries for him Americans have to pay for his healthcare	Sunlei	May 2018	#27
Yes	True Blue American	May 2018	#56
How lucky for him that this is the most "raped" feeling he's ever had	Happyhippychick	May 2018	#28
Weird, I doubt it was about his hair.	TNLib	May 2018	#33
This reminds me of the Mccain campaign thugs	Kittycow	May 2018	#40
Most records	True Blue American	May 2018	#45
Quick! Someone show Dr Bornstein the artist's rendering of the thug who threatened	fleur-de-lisa	May 2018	#47
He should have asked them to produce a Power of Attorney signed by Trump	avebury	May 2018	#48
My guess is that he takes a few things	greymattermom	May 2018	#50
If he is taking diet pills they are not working	Jose Garcia	May 2018	#64
And, if he is taking Propecia - it is not working either.	Marie Marie	May 2018	#91
NO	get the red out	May 2018	#67
Did he call the police? n/t	They_Live	May 2018	#58
This message was self-deleted by its author	Pepsidog	May 2018	#59
Well not only does Donald think hes above the law, but he also acts like it.	Mr. Sparkle	May 2018	#60
So, having some files taken...is like 'being raped'?	FailureToCommunicate	May 2018	#63
When someone broke into my house, I felt that way too.	procon	May 2018	#73
Never been raped, but I've been robbed numerous times. It was bad, but i really doubt it's as	FailureToCommunicate	May 2018	#77
Why would you doubt my experience and imply that I'm lying!?	procon	May 2018	#82
I did not imply anything of the sort.	FailureToCommunicate	May 2018	#93
the privacy of other patients was violated too	mainer	May 2018	#86
I wonder what they say? Probably that TRUMP weighs about 310# and is on amphetamines...	Still In Wisconsin	May 2018	#65
Exactly what I was thinking	duforsure	May 2018	#71
Yes, Hitler is said to have used cocaine, opiates, and methamphetamine.	Still In Wisconsin	May 2018	#83
Are there still doctors who aren't using electronic med records?	Jose Garcia	May 2018	#66
Huh?	Firestorm49	May 2018	#68
"and another 'large man'"	kag	May 2018	#69
What would happen if I went to my doctor's office...	Dave Starsky	May 2018	#72
No, "feeling raped" carries with it fear of STDs, pregnancy,	Ilsa	May 2018	#74
No Question here - This was an illegal seizure	HopeAgain	May 2018	#84
You are absolutely right about this.	Dave Starsky	May 2018	#96
Should consult NYPD	Corgigal	May 2018	#97
Dr. Bornstein not guilty of violating patient/doc confidentiality	mainer	May 2018	#85
There is a huge difference between certifying someone's health and stealing records.	uppityperson	May 2018	#100
I'm not arguing that. Bornstein's being accused of violation of HIPAA	mainer	May 2018	#108
If Bornstein revealed Trump's use of any med without Trump's approval, it violates HIPAA	uppityperson	May 2018	#110
Right, but Bornstein was authorized BY TRUMP to issue a "candidate's health" report to the public	mainer	May 2018	#111
The person gets to decide what to be allowed to be shared. If he didn't say that med, it's a	uppityperson	May 2018	#112
Nice office you got here, Doc.	MineralMan	May 2018	#87
He felt "raped, frightened and sad"?	red dog 1	May 2018	#88
When my home was robbed, that's exactly how I felt too.	procon	May 2018	#95
They where probably records from a mental health assessment.	briv1016	May 2018	#92
Given Trump's proclivity for barebacking porn stars	Orange Free State	May 2018	#101
To hell with all that legal stuff	rocktivity	May 2018	#103
More examples of Trump thugery.	riversedge	May 2018	#104
Where does Trump find these people?	lanlady	May 2018	#113

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