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Chemisse

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3. She is right.

Thu May 24, 2018, 07:38 AM

May 2018

If only Dems want impeachment then it is a partisan move, and would enrage half of America. Imagine if the GOP did that to Hillary, had she become president.

Hopefully the Republicans will get on board once the Mueller investigation is completed. If not, we just need to have majorities in Congress who can harness him until his term is up.

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UPDATE: Nancy Pelosi at CNN Town Hall: If Only Democrats Impeach Trump, 'It Will Divide The Country' [View all] DonViejo May 2018 OP

Will divide the country? The country is as divided as it can be. Jim__ May 2018 #1

No question!! 70% of Democrats can't be wrong... impeach 45!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #26

It will unite Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #59

He does seem to be working with/for Putin but the numbers to... brush May 2018 #96

That thinking got us 8 years of BushCheney C_U_L8R May 2018 #2

Bush could not be impeached because just like now we didn't have the votes in the Senate...And I Demsrule86 May 2018 #84

It doesn't take any votes in the Senate to impeach dumbcat May 2018 #99

What is the point of impeachment if you can't remove the president from office? Demsrule86 May 2018 #102

Uh, that's what I was trying to tell you dumbcat May 2018 #103

I know that...my post reflected that the reason we shouldn't impeach is because we can't convict Demsrule86 May 2018 #137

I think we agree dumbcat May 2018 #143

I know that...and perhaps I wasn't clear...but yes we do agree Demsrule86 May 2018 #144

She is right. Chemisse May 2018 #3

Imagine Reality relogic May 2018 #9

But they never tried to impeach him for all the perceived "illegal" acts they claimed. 7962 May 2018 #17

Impeachment? relogic May 2018 #19

They're already enraged rpannier May 2018 #13

Irony relogic May 2018 #16

Bu6t they're not riding down out of the hills with their guns. Chemisse May 2018 #68

The left went after nixon we survived the right webt after clinton we survived that as well Fullduplexxx May 2018 #14

We had congress and gop helped. Demsrule86 May 2018 #45

We've never had a complicit Congress before. Chemisse May 2018 #70

Unfortunately I think Nancy has no choice but to acknowledge the math. lagomorph777 May 2018 #15

That is the crux of this matter, which Pelosi knows full well, despite giving "division" excuse JaneQPublic May 2018 #30

AND if impeachment talk is part of the midterm elections, Chemisse May 2018 #71

She's right. The GOP doomed Nixon. PSPS May 2018 #35

They won't this time, even if they are the minority in the Senate. They have learned KPN May 2018 #66

The GOP did that to Bill Clinton apnu May 2018 #38

Impeachment made Clinton more popular DeminPennswoods May 2018 #47

The GOP lost big time in 98 because of the impeachment. Demsrule86 May 2018 #50

That's speculation. There is also the explanation that the economy was flying high via the KPN May 2018 #69

Impeachment caused Clinton favorables to go up...there is a public record. Demsrule86 May 2018 #79

Thanks. I agree, there is no point right now. I just think we need to make sure we aren't KPN May 2018 #86

I agree with not looking weak. But if she evaded the question it would have looked weak too. Demsrule86 May 2018 #97

Yes. I agree. I just think the day after we did win the House in 2006 was not the day to KPN May 2018 #138

What would we have impeached Bush on anyway? WMD's we can't even be sure he wasn't tricked Demsrule86 May 2018 #139

Well, we agree that impeachment would have gone KPN May 2018 #140

She could have been more sensitive...but I don't think that is her style...one tough lady. So I Demsrule86 May 2018 #141

She is one tough lady for sure. I'm good KPN May 2018 #142

Me too...no matter what she does she will be hated by the right and some on our side as well. Demsrule86 May 2018 #146

Nope first time since 1934...and only repeated by Bush in 02 after 9-11. Demsrule86 May 2018 #133

The GOP did not lose much at all in 1998. former9thward May 2018 #115

Yes they did...when you consider it was a midterm... Demsrule86 May 2018 #132

I agree. MBS May 2018 #39

Enrage half of America? KPN May 2018 #64

Yes, she is right. Watergate was a bipartisan effort and it mostly united the country. Alethia Merritt May 2018 #130

What exactly about NOT impeaching Trump is unifying? Girard442 May 2018 #4

+1 nt jonno99 May 2018 #128

So let's let this thing create untold damage so that we don't do what is already done? NRaleighLiberal May 2018 #5

Exactly. Well said. Owl May 2018 #119

Aaaand here we go again..... vi5 May 2018 #6

THIS! Va Lefty May 2018 #8

So FUCKING SICK of this . . . hatrack May 2018 #21

How about given the behavior of the GOP, it is not possible to get Trump out of office by Demsrule86 May 2018 #51

So tired of our milquetoast responses. Owl May 2018 #120

I'm tired of it all... vi5 May 2018 #122

I understand completely. Owl May 2018 #125

And leaving him in office will most likely destroy the country Siwsan May 2018 #7

I trust that she knows what she's talking about. Her Democratic peers have elected her ehrnst May 2018 #10

All good points. nt 7962 May 2018 #18

I get your points, and somewhat agree with them, but... Shipwack May 2018 #62

Well, yes, as long as there are enough traitorous GOP left in congress ehrnst May 2018 #73

The repug side, which always threatens civil war, Mc Mike May 2018 #11

Get out of the way, Pelosi. Paladin May 2018 #12

We should have done something about it in the past two elections Wwcd May 2018 #60

And I sure dont want Nancy to "get out of the way" sigh...the ONE person who knows more Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #78

Knowing that the glorious MSM investors want a good return on their money, Wwcd May 2018 #98

And there is no way to get him out as we don't have the votes in the Senate to convict...she is Demsrule86 May 2018 #85

There has already been impeachment papers introduced to the House. Several times. Wwcd May 2018 #100

Agreed. Owl May 2018 #124

Oh, noes - division!! That would be . . . . horrible!! hatrack May 2018 #20

If we take the House in the mid terms SHRED May 2018 #22

So do we have the votes in the senate or not, we dont, let me save you the time Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #80

We still don't have the votes in the Senate...so we work towards getting him out in 20. Demsrule86 May 2018 #87

She should be saying this IN PUBLIC right now Tom Rinaldo May 2018 #23

Tom it is never going to arrive. The GOP will never go along and we don't have the votes in the Demsrule86 May 2018 #88

This is why Nancy Pelosi should not be a leader at this time. Yavin4 May 2018 #24

Aw. NurseJackie May 2018 #27

I cant, i just cant. I have to step away maybe, if on one side we have actual NAZI'S Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #82

So much whining. Temper tantrums and hand-wringing. NurseJackie May 2018 #89

This is exactly why she should be a leader...she deals in reality. Demsrule86 May 2018 #90

At a different time, yes, but we lose when we don't call out a party that has no values other than Yavin4 May 2018 #113

Impeachment talk can only help Republicans by stirring up their base. The reason mid-terms Demsrule86 May 2018 #135

Nancy Pelosi runtel May 2018 #149

She is correct mcar May 2018 #25

Of course she's correct! I'm so sick of all the whining and hand-wringing and.... NurseJackie May 2018 #31

One would think people would know more about the process mcar May 2018 #57

People who have NO clue what the job Nancy does entails, the REALITY Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #83

Do some believe that if we impeach Trump, he is out of office? Have they not heard of conviction Demsrule86 May 2018 #91

+1000 brer cat May 2018 #110

It's true NJ JustAnotherGen May 2018 #117

Bazinga! George II May 2018 #118

Yes, she is wise and correct. Our democracy is broken Hortensis May 2018 #145

I want her to be our next Speaker mcar May 2018 #147

:) Me too, but her colleagues will choose. Hortensis May 2018 #148

and if it does divide the country azureblue May 2018 #28

It can't get much more divided without a civil war. nt Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #29

The country is already divided. CanonRay May 2018 #32

Nixon's presidency was not in jeopardy until he lost the support of members of his own party. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2018 #33

No, Nancy it will not cause any more division because we really JoeOtterbein May 2018 #34

Impeachment will not remove Trump. Demsrule86 May 2018 #44

That's no reason not to impeach, if warranted. It's just a result, if it's only Dems. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #36

There is no way get him out without GOP votes in the Senate. Demsrule86 May 2018 #43

Even after the mid-terms, you think? nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #114

The way the Senate elections are in 18, it is mathematically impossible to get enough Democratic Demsrule86 May 2018 #134

Oh, yes. Now I remember reading that. Best we can hope is to get more power w/more seats.nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #150

Exactly right...and we have eight conservadems at grave risk...including Joe Manchin in Demsrule86 May 2018 #152

It's stupid for her to be asked the question, and stupider to expect an answer... Orsino May 2018 #37

You need Republicans to impeach. Demsrule86 May 2018 #42

And even with a Mueller report and a hundred more indictments, that'd be a hard sell. n/t Orsino May 2018 #55

They Wont do it in my opinion. Demsrule86 May 2018 #56

I think they'll have to, eventually, or Trump will resign. Orsino May 2018 #58

I think it is possible he resigns also. Demsrule86 May 2018 #67

She is correct. Impeachment must be bi-partisan. We won't have the votes in the Senate to convict. Demsrule86 May 2018 #40

Are we not divided now ? left-of-center2012 May 2018 #41

Here is what I think Pelosi should be emphasizing Zorro May 2018 #46

Reading is fundamental, people. Tommy_Carcetti May 2018 #48

+1 backtoblue May 2018 #123

Everyday it becomes clear this country will not survive twitlers presidency and we kimbutgar May 2018 #49

This is why she should not be speaker. WestIndianArchie May 2018 #52

This is why she is a great speaker. She deal in reality not wishful thinking...we Demsrule86 May 2018 #92

I'm reluctantly willing to give Pelosi and the Dem leadership awesomerwb1 May 2018 #53

Agreed. Shipwack May 2018 #65

When family members cannot talk politics, the country is already divided. Fire him. dameatball May 2018 #54

She is absolutely correct GulfCoast66 May 2018 #61

How many democrats itcfish May 2018 #63

Any House candidate who proactively talks about impeachment gets cut off from my funds... brooklynite May 2018 #72

Good point...we need to flip votes. Demsrule86 May 2018 #93

Never change Dems .... LenaBaby61 May 2018 #74

Ok fine...show me how we impeach and convict Trump even if we get the house...find 67 votes in Demsrule86 May 2018 #94

"Ok fine...show me how we impeach and convict Trump even if we get the house...find 67 votes." LenaBaby61 May 2018 #111

Nice evading the question...but where do the votes in the Senate come from? And Franken is a red Demsrule86 May 2018 #136

I like and support Pelosi, but I think she needs to be a bit more straight-forward KPN May 2018 #75

There was never a chance to convict Bush either. Impeachment without conviction is a waste of time . Demsrule86 May 2018 #81

"Nancy Pelosi at CNN Town Hall: If Only Democrats Impeach Trump, 'It Will Divide The Country." LenaBaby61 May 2018 #112

The flaw in the line of succession Qutzupalotl May 2018 #76

As long as republicans have the majority in both houses impeachment isn't going to happen still_one May 2018 #77

Even if we get the house...we can't convict in the Senate...it is a sad thing when the GOP Demsrule86 May 2018 #95

What about no one being above the law. Trump is the walking embodiment of high crimes and notdarkyet May 2018 #101

Impeachment is like Censure kurtcagle May 2018 #104

They said that about the Civil Rights Act.... But the country figured out how to deal with it. Civic Justice May 2018 #105

Pelosi, I try to defend you DonCoquixote May 2018 #106

Treason is divisive. meadowlander May 2018 #107

Right now, the math doesn't work DeminPennswoods May 2018 #108

That's a bullshit excuse. BlueStater May 2018 #109

That's not what she said. It's not an "excuse" it's reality. NurseJackie May 2018 #121

It IS an excuse. BlueStater May 2018 #131

If we don't get rid of traitor trump and his ilk Marthe48 May 2018 #116

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #126

She is thinking long-term strategy when people want to go to the mattresses Bradshaw3 May 2018 #127

pssst...It's already divided Nancy Demonaut May 2018 #129

she is correct. We need Republicans in on this. riversedge May 2018 #151

He has to be impeached eventualy Bradical79 May 2018 #153

You may not have noticed, Nancy, but the country has been pretty divided for some time. nt raccoon May 2018 #154

Time for her to go JCMach1 May 2018 #155