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In reply to the discussion: Stone reverses: I'm 'probably' unnamed person in Mueller indictment [View all]Sunlei
(22,651 posts)8. Roger Stone, Credico, Wikileaks, and Guccifer 2.0. Here are facts with sourses.
Roger Stone, Credico, Wikileaks, and Guccifer 2.0
Two[1] Roger Stone aides were subpoenaed a couple of months ago by Special Counsel Mueller.[2] During the 2016 Presidential campaign Roger Stone[3] made constant braggadocios statements about his ties to Guccifer 2.0, the DNC hacker, and Wikileaks. While Roger Stone has attempted to downplay his communication with Guccifer 2.0, he has admitted to have been in contact with the DNC hacking suspect.[4] According to a Daily Beast report, US investigators have identified Guccifer 2.0 as Russian Intelligence Officers that worked for the GRU.[5] The discovery was made after a Russian intelligence officer forgot to use a VPN while logging into Twitter and Wordpress.
We also know that Special Counsel Mueller has been asking questions about whether or not President Trump knew of the hacked DNC emails before they were released. They've asked about the relationship between GOP operative Roger Stone and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, and why Trump took policy positions favorable to Russia.[6] WikiLeaks should be considered an extension of Russia's 2016 disinformation campaign,[7] we knew that WikiLeaks shared material hacked by the GRU[8] before The Daily Beast report was released.
Moreover, the leading counterargument against the reports of Guccifer 2.0 being a Russian intelligence officer is that they would be too intelligent to forget turning on their VPN. That line of reasoning is wrong. While the system the Russian hackers use is indeed genius, that doesn't mean it's impervious from human error. In fact here is a CSE report from 2011 that elaborates on that point.[9] The CSE, Communications Securities Establishment, is Canada's national cryptologic agency that collects foreign signal intelligence in order to inform and alert the Government of Canada to the activities of foreign entities outside Canada.[10]
But a 2011 presentation to the NSA and its foreign partners by Canadas signals intelligence agency, the Communications Security Establishment, undermines the notion of a foreign hacker so skilled that a victim would never know their identity. The document calls Russian hackers morons for routinely compromising the security of a really well designed system intended to cover their tracks; for example, the hackers logged into their personal social and email accounts through the same anonymizing system used to attack their targets, comparable to getting an anonymous burner phone for illicit use and then placing calls to your girlfriend, parents, and roommate.
Just a reminder that long time Roger Stone friend and former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg was having a melt down on multiple networks 2 months ago for being subpoenaed by Special Counsel Mueller. He wanted to refuse the court order so that he would not be forced to testify against Stone. He claimed that he didn't have the time to sort through his emails and go to the grand jury court order.[11]
The former Trump adviser made a succession of appearances on US news channels in which he among many gaffes called the president an idiot and threatened to tear up a subpoena from Robert Mueller
He spent half a day on national television with the most ridiculous excuses, going as far as to egg Mueller on to arrest him. He has since said he will cooperate.[12] The subpoena of Sam Nunberg asks for all communications/correspondence with Carter Page, Corey Lewandowski, Donald J. Trump, Hope Hicks, Keith Schiller, Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Roger Stone, and Steve Bannon dating back to 2015.[13]
Roger Stone has been a target of this investigation for quite some time, he has tried to get ahead of a potential indictment by claiming he is ready to be indicted and that the Russian collusion scandal is a hoax.[14]
A report by the Wall Street Journal confirmed that Roger Stone sought damaging information on Hillary Clinton from Julian Assange during the campaign.[15] The liaison between Assange and Stone, radio host and comedian Credico, was subpoenaed by Special Counsel Mueller in Novermber of 2017.[16]
On July 27 of 2016 at a campaign rally in Florida candidate Trump implored Russia to hack Clinton's emails and these new indictments indicate that Russia attempted to hack the Clinton campaign hours after Trump's statements.[17]
1) Reuters - Exclusive: Special Counsel subpoenas another Stone aide in Russia probe - sources
2) Reuters - Mueller issues grand jury subpoenas to Trump adviser's social media consultant
3) New York Times - Roger Stone, the Trickster on Trumps Side, Is Under F.B.I. Scrutiny
4) Chicago Tribune - Ex-Trump adviser Roger Stone swapped messages with DNC hacking suspect
5) The Daily Beast - Lone DNC Hacker Revealed as Russian Intelligence Officer
6) NBC - Mueller asking if Trump knew about hacked Democratic emails before release
7) Foreign Policy - WikiLeaks Turned Down Leaks on Russian Government During U.S. Presidential Campaign
8) CBS - How did WikiLeaks become associated with Russia?
9) The Intercept - White House Says Russia's Hackers Are Too Good To Be Caught But NSA Partner Called Them "Morons"
10) Government of Canada CSE - What we do and why we do it
11) The Guardian - 'It would be funny if they arrest me' Sam Nunberg's TV interview disaster
12) Bloomberg - Nunberg Says He Enjoyed Defiance But Will Comply With Mueller
13) The Hill - Mueller subpoenas witness for documents tied to Trump, campaign associates: reports
14) NPR - Trump Adviser Roger Stone Says He's 'Prepared' If Indicted By Special Counsel Mueller
15) Wall Street Journal - Roger Stone Sought Information on Clinton From Assange, Emails Show
16) New York Times - Comedian Is Subpoenaed in Inquiry on Russia Meddling
17) Think Progress - Mueller indictment shows Russian hackers launched attacks on Hillary on same day Trump asked them to
Much thanks to Poppin for keeping track of everything.
Two[1] Roger Stone aides were subpoenaed a couple of months ago by Special Counsel Mueller.[2] During the 2016 Presidential campaign Roger Stone[3] made constant braggadocios statements about his ties to Guccifer 2.0, the DNC hacker, and Wikileaks. While Roger Stone has attempted to downplay his communication with Guccifer 2.0, he has admitted to have been in contact with the DNC hacking suspect.[4] According to a Daily Beast report, US investigators have identified Guccifer 2.0 as Russian Intelligence Officers that worked for the GRU.[5] The discovery was made after a Russian intelligence officer forgot to use a VPN while logging into Twitter and Wordpress.
We also know that Special Counsel Mueller has been asking questions about whether or not President Trump knew of the hacked DNC emails before they were released. They've asked about the relationship between GOP operative Roger Stone and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, and why Trump took policy positions favorable to Russia.[6] WikiLeaks should be considered an extension of Russia's 2016 disinformation campaign,[7] we knew that WikiLeaks shared material hacked by the GRU[8] before The Daily Beast report was released.
Moreover, the leading counterargument against the reports of Guccifer 2.0 being a Russian intelligence officer is that they would be too intelligent to forget turning on their VPN. That line of reasoning is wrong. While the system the Russian hackers use is indeed genius, that doesn't mean it's impervious from human error. In fact here is a CSE report from 2011 that elaborates on that point.[9] The CSE, Communications Securities Establishment, is Canada's national cryptologic agency that collects foreign signal intelligence in order to inform and alert the Government of Canada to the activities of foreign entities outside Canada.[10]
But a 2011 presentation to the NSA and its foreign partners by Canadas signals intelligence agency, the Communications Security Establishment, undermines the notion of a foreign hacker so skilled that a victim would never know their identity. The document calls Russian hackers morons for routinely compromising the security of a really well designed system intended to cover their tracks; for example, the hackers logged into their personal social and email accounts through the same anonymizing system used to attack their targets, comparable to getting an anonymous burner phone for illicit use and then placing calls to your girlfriend, parents, and roommate.
Just a reminder that long time Roger Stone friend and former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg was having a melt down on multiple networks 2 months ago for being subpoenaed by Special Counsel Mueller. He wanted to refuse the court order so that he would not be forced to testify against Stone. He claimed that he didn't have the time to sort through his emails and go to the grand jury court order.[11]
The former Trump adviser made a succession of appearances on US news channels in which he among many gaffes called the president an idiot and threatened to tear up a subpoena from Robert Mueller
He spent half a day on national television with the most ridiculous excuses, going as far as to egg Mueller on to arrest him. He has since said he will cooperate.[12] The subpoena of Sam Nunberg asks for all communications/correspondence with Carter Page, Corey Lewandowski, Donald J. Trump, Hope Hicks, Keith Schiller, Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Roger Stone, and Steve Bannon dating back to 2015.[13]
Roger Stone has been a target of this investigation for quite some time, he has tried to get ahead of a potential indictment by claiming he is ready to be indicted and that the Russian collusion scandal is a hoax.[14]
A report by the Wall Street Journal confirmed that Roger Stone sought damaging information on Hillary Clinton from Julian Assange during the campaign.[15] The liaison between Assange and Stone, radio host and comedian Credico, was subpoenaed by Special Counsel Mueller in Novermber of 2017.[16]
On July 27 of 2016 at a campaign rally in Florida candidate Trump implored Russia to hack Clinton's emails and these new indictments indicate that Russia attempted to hack the Clinton campaign hours after Trump's statements.[17]
1) Reuters - Exclusive: Special Counsel subpoenas another Stone aide in Russia probe - sources
2) Reuters - Mueller issues grand jury subpoenas to Trump adviser's social media consultant
3) New York Times - Roger Stone, the Trickster on Trumps Side, Is Under F.B.I. Scrutiny
4) Chicago Tribune - Ex-Trump adviser Roger Stone swapped messages with DNC hacking suspect
5) The Daily Beast - Lone DNC Hacker Revealed as Russian Intelligence Officer
6) NBC - Mueller asking if Trump knew about hacked Democratic emails before release
7) Foreign Policy - WikiLeaks Turned Down Leaks on Russian Government During U.S. Presidential Campaign
8) CBS - How did WikiLeaks become associated with Russia?
9) The Intercept - White House Says Russia's Hackers Are Too Good To Be Caught But NSA Partner Called Them "Morons"
10) Government of Canada CSE - What we do and why we do it
11) The Guardian - 'It would be funny if they arrest me' Sam Nunberg's TV interview disaster
12) Bloomberg - Nunberg Says He Enjoyed Defiance But Will Comply With Mueller
13) The Hill - Mueller subpoenas witness for documents tied to Trump, campaign associates: reports
14) NPR - Trump Adviser Roger Stone Says He's 'Prepared' If Indicted By Special Counsel Mueller
15) Wall Street Journal - Roger Stone Sought Information on Clinton From Assange, Emails Show
16) New York Times - Comedian Is Subpoenaed in Inquiry on Russia Meddling
17) Think Progress - Mueller indictment shows Russian hackers launched attacks on Hillary on same day Trump asked them to
Much thanks to Poppin for keeping track of everything.
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Stone reverses: I'm 'probably' unnamed person in Mueller indictment [View all]
Judi Lynn
Jul 2018
OP
No shit. How much you wanna bet he's planning on getting that "Nixon" tattoo lasered....
George II
Jul 2018
#2
How is he not behind bars? What is Mueller still processing that is keeping Stone on the streets?
LonePirate
Jul 2018
#3
Shortly, I hope he's behind bars and we can't see that creepy head until his parole
Hoyt
Jul 2018
#6
good points! and everything 'they' say on TV/social media CAN be used against them.
Sunlei
Jul 2018
#15
someday far far in future- someone will make a movie about this & hope Americans are allowed
Sunlei
Jul 2018
#16