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In reply to the discussion: Scotland to hold independence poll in 2014 [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,347 posts)45. No problem if they do want independence
But whether the majority of Scots do want full independence is highly questionable - so there's a lot of politicking about exactly what question will be asked (simple 'yes' or 'no', or a 3rd option of 'Devo Max' - maximum devolution, but not complete independence - in the referendum too), when it will be asked (the SNP favours a later date, possibly because there isn't yet a majority in favour of independence), and who will be asked (the SNP has proposed that 16 and 17 year olds should get to vote too).
Most recent poll:
Some 54 per cent of people in Scotland questioned by Ipsos Mori for the thinktank British Future said they wanted to stay in the Union, against just 29 per cent who backed independence.
The poll, released as the government set out its position on the terms of any referendum on independence, also showed similar majorities in both England and Wales in favour of Scotland staying in the UK.
According to the survey, voters north of the border are slightly more enthusiastic about preserving the Union than people in England or Wales.
Some 48 per cent of those questioned in England backed the Union, against 27 per cent who supported independence for Scotland. In Wales, 41 per cent wanted Scotland to stay in the UK, while 29 per cet said it should become independent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/01/10/scottish-independence-poll-scots-want-to-stay-in-britain_n_1196464.html
The poll, released as the government set out its position on the terms of any referendum on independence, also showed similar majorities in both England and Wales in favour of Scotland staying in the UK.
According to the survey, voters north of the border are slightly more enthusiastic about preserving the Union than people in England or Wales.
Some 48 per cent of those questioned in England backed the Union, against 27 per cent who supported independence for Scotland. In Wales, 41 per cent wanted Scotland to stay in the UK, while 29 per cet said it should become independent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/01/10/scottish-independence-poll-scots-want-to-stay-in-britain_n_1196464.html
Poll details: http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/2901/British-Future-State-of-the-Nation-Poll.aspx
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Act-shmact, the referendum will be held in 2014, because that's what the Scottish
Fool Count
Jan 2012
#70
Limitations on "always" are not limited to the United States or anywhere else, as a matter of fact.
whathehell
Jan 2012
#58
do you have a source for the generational progressions of language aquisition?
arely staircase
Jan 2012
#86
Hence the lack of any substantial cultural difference between the Northern states and the Southern s
LanternWaste
Jan 2012
#63
I never said there was some huge "discrimination" being foisted on the Scots.
whathehell
Jan 2012
#83
and whether they will remain so after 2014 is precisely what the referendum will decide
arely staircase
Jan 2012
#87
But I'm not sure "the American South" vs. the American North" is really analagous
whathehell
Jan 2012
#12
The Mel Gibson movie was a highly fictionalized version of an old conflict, not the present.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#30
Really?.....Apparently the Scots related to it...I understand when it premiered
whathehell
Jan 2012
#39
Union came before Plymouth Rock did - and the Scottish king took over England, not vice versa
dmallind
Jan 2012
#18
Absolutely. And the royal lineage after Elizabeth I to the present is from Mary, a Scot.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jan 2012
#29
Yeah, with more than a bit of German in there as well, I understand, but the point is
whathehell
Jan 2012
#37
Well aware of that, but what does "Plymouth Rock" have to do with the UK at this point?
whathehell
Jan 2012
#38
It would be interesting to see the results. I love Scotland's history but don't want to see much of
jwirr
Jan 2012
#11
The irony is that 'Wallace' probably means his family were recent migrants to Scotland
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2012
#71
As a Scot, (may be the only one here) I feel the need to include my input
MichaelMcGuire
Jan 2012
#76