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karynnj

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11. Netanyahu
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 09:45 AM
Mar 2019

Last edited Thu Mar 28, 2019, 10:36 AM - Edit history (1)

Given Syria's current state, there is no international call to return the Golan Heights to Syria. Therefore, nothing really changes on the ground. Haartez (a left leaning Israeli which has an English language edition) noted that before the announcement the US had stopped referring to it as Israeli occupied Golan Heights to Israeli controlled Golan Heights and without that being pointed out, I totally missed this subtle difference.

At this point, the EU and the Arab states have not followed Trump's example.

As noted in another Haaretz article is that like moving the embassy, this was something given to Israel asking nothing in return. This eliminations some of the "chips" that could have been used in getting everyone to agree to any Israeli/Palestinian peace deal. As with the growth of settlements and other Netanyahu actions are having the impact of completely closely out any possibility of a two state solution. ( At this point, the vast majority of American Jews adamantly favor a two state solution -- while Israel has moved to the right and support for that has fallen .. "at least now" (and the settlements continue to take more land). )

Netanyahu is currently running with a more right wing coalition than he currently has, but in spite of that and in spite of the many corruption cases against him, he STILL may be the one seen as having the best chance to form a government - so he might be asked to do so by the Israeli President. (This may happen even if the new Gantz party gets more votes - as happened in 2009 when Tzipi Livni's party got one more seat than Netanyahu's party. )

I greatly fear that Netanyahu, supported by Trump, might take advantage of the next year and a half to make unilateral decisions that create a "greater Israel" annexing more land -- but no necessarily giving full rights as citizens to the Palestinians currently on that land. Obviously, that will be condemned by the UN, but it is hard to see that stopping it from happening. (Trump seems to be following Netanyahu's plan of allying with the Sunni nations against Iran -- betting that this is more important to them than the Palestinians' plight.)

I'm just asking this question to be safe from alerts, watoos Mar 2019 #1
It's likely atreides1 Mar 2019 #3
Hey, the bigger issue here is it could lead to war, a war Trump's minions seem to want! machoneman Mar 2019 #4
I do not know that answer but I actually thought this was an ONION story when I saw the headline. riversedge Mar 2019 #9
Scary that this is becoming a thing ck4829 Mar 2019 #24
I honestly don't understand why some people think Syria should get the Golan back ripcord Mar 2019 #2
So, since Trump couldn't find the Heights with a clearly marked map, who is pushing... machoneman Mar 2019 #5
Fundies? not fooled Mar 2019 #8
Netanyahu karynnj Mar 2019 #11
Possibly the shadow president, Stephen Miller? pazzyanne Mar 2019 #12
Who else indeed? ck4829 Mar 2019 #25
xtian fundies JI7 Mar 2019 #28
Perhaps it's not that plain and simple! atreides1 Mar 2019 #6
If All the Jews in Israel disappeared at the snap of Vogon_Glory Mar 2019 #19
If I were you I'd be worried about God's fingers. sfwriter Mar 2019 #26
I will agree that Israel should keep the Golan Heights, Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #27
Mexican maps to be redrawn to include Texas as part on Mexico. Chipper Chat Mar 2019 #7
Texas, and then some more. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #13
I'm sure Mexico would welcome California back. Chipper Chat Mar 2019 #18
Sort of the opposite of that. EX500rider Mar 2019 #21
Shameful! BuddhaGirl Mar 2019 #10
You mean facing reality for the first time since 1981? Or would that be 1973? n/t Odoreida Mar 2019 #14
So is this what the Syrian war was all about? ucrdem Mar 2019 #15
Does Crimea follow? Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 #16
LOL Scurrilous Mar 2019 #17
Good question ck4829 Mar 2019 #22
Goebbels would be so proud. BlueIdaho Mar 2019 #20
Something Russia is itching for ck4829 Mar 2019 #23
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