I agree that Columbus' statue should come down, (Reply #37)

In the discussion thread: Biden Says We Should 'Protect' Columbus, Washington and Jefferson Statues [View all]

Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:20 PM

marie999 (1,437 posts)

37. I agree that Columbus' statue should come down,

But unless Biden had been asked a direct question about this he should not have said anything. No matter how he had answered, it will cost him more votes than it will gain him. Sometimes a politician just has to say nothing.

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82 replies	Author	Time	Post
Biden Says We Should 'Protect' Columbus, Washington and Jefferson Statues [View all]	ForgoTheConsequence	Jul 2020	OP
Disagree on the Columbus ones but it's probably smart politics.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2020	#1
If you want to sell out indigenous people for the chance at a few Trump supporters, maybe.	ForgoTheConsequence	Jul 2020	#2
It's long past time for them to be educated about facts and human decency.	JudyM	Jul 2020	#5
I doubt it's just a few Trumpers.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2020	#15
Pragmatism at the expense of Indigenous people.	ForgoTheConsequence	Jul 2020	#20
It's winning at the expense of losing.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2020	#24
Exactly. Focus on winning the WH and both houses of Congress. If that is accomplished, then	still_one	Jul 2020	#40
+1 Win and then educate the public.	lagomorph777	Jul 2020	#70
Oh please....always trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.	Demsrule86	Jul 2020	#64
De las Casas	Drahthaardogs	Jul 2020	#58
I believe the term savages is also in the Declaration of Independence	delisen	Jul 2020	#23
What Color Would You Like to Call the Sky in Your World?	Stallion	Jul 2020	#75
If you have a logical argument I am open to listening n/t	delisen	Jul 2020	#77
Your Argument Doesn't deserve a Rational Response Because You are Out on an Island of One	Stallion	Jul 2020	#78
As none of us are going to hand our property to them, the rightful owners,	Kaleva	Jul 2020	#59
Indeed, Sir	The Magistrate	Jul 2020	#3
Why does it end with Confederate statues?	ForgoTheConsequence	Jul 2020	#18
Because That Is As Far As Wide Popularity Goes, Sir	The Magistrate	Jul 2020	#45
Excellent and accurate summation.	GulfCoast66	Jul 2020	#60
Agreed	mjvpi	Jul 2020	#22
And Given the Tight Time Budgets Of News Coverage, Sir	The Magistrate	Jul 2020	#46
I disagree with it to...but why is it smart politics? I miss that point.	usaf-vet	Jul 2020	#8
Because most Americans aren't against Columbus.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2020	#19
In 2017 police brutality didn't result in massive demonstrations.	mjvpi	Jul 2020	#25
Well find me a newer poll that shows different results & I'll change my view.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2020	#27
Watch for one after Biden's statement.	mjvpi	Jul 2020	#34
I'm not fighting. I'm going off facts that exist right now.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2020	#50
Bleh.	PTWB	Jul 2020	#61
This isn't a progressive/conservative issue.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2020	#62
He shouldn't say anything at all.	PTWB	Jul 2020	#65
He was asked a question.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2020	#66
It didn't really come across as that flatfooted when he said it	soothsayer	Jul 2020	#4
Public property should not be toppled by mobs	Loki Liesmith	Jul 2020	#6
Because that "process" has worked out so well in the past for Indigenous People.	ForgoTheConsequence	Jul 2020	#16
I'm about Joe's age. They lied to us about Columbus.	raging moderate	Jul 2020	#7
If they were a president and the statue is of their presidency then	GemDigger	Jul 2020	#9
IMO it's about the confederate traitor statues and name changes...	brush	Jul 2020	#10
Columbus not in the same league as Washington and Jefferson	RussBLib	Jul 2020	#11
built this country? apparently Jefferson built it on the backs of slaves.	delisen	Jul 2020	#28
So how far do you want to take this?	ripcord	Jul 2020	#57
as far as it needs to go.	delisen	Jul 2020	#73
Let's stop talking about statues.	dawg day	Jul 2020	#12
+1	Bernardo de La Paz	Jul 2020	#14
Yes, and while we're at it	Lulu KC	Jul 2020	#30
Hear Hear, Sir!	The Magistrate	Jul 2020	#47
The good that Washington & Jefferson did outweighs the bad. Columbus? Not so much. . . nt	Bernardo de La Paz	Jul 2020	#13
He's technically correct.	Scurrilous	Jul 2020	#17
Why should Indigenous peoples put any faith in the white man's process?	ForgoTheConsequence	Jul 2020	#21
Biden was #2 guy in the Obama administration:	Scurrilous	Jul 2020	#38
He didn't say we should stop agitating. He said that certain monuments should be protected.	Politicub	Jul 2020	#76
We know Biden is a "split the difference" guy. That's just a given.	LisaM	Jul 2020	#26
I believe he went on to say	Lulu KC	Jul 2020	#29
...	Scurrilous	Jul 2020	#43
Well, this is something Mr. Biden and I will disagree about	Ferrets are Cool	Jul 2020	#31
It won't be popular, but I agree with Biden 100%	Polybius	Jul 2020	#32
I don't agree with with regards to Columbus	rockfordfile	Jul 2020	#33
Does this mean I have to change my vote	sarisataka	Jul 2020	#35
Las Casas is not denouncing Columbus or his relatives	ucrdem	Jul 2020	#36
I agree that Columbus' statue should come down,	marie999	Jul 2020	#37
Biden would be wise to sit out "statue-gate" and let Agent Orange take all the heat	flibbitygiblets	Jul 2020	#39
The OP article says he was asked.	ucrdem	Jul 2020	#41
I think the Sopranos did an episode about this.	Scurrilous	Jul 2020	#42
Van Zandt: "You take down one of our heroes, we'll take down one of yours "	Marcuse	Jul 2020	#54
I can remember when he was Miami Steve Van Zandt.	Scurrilous	Jul 2020	#55
Thank you.	qwlauren35	Jul 2020	#80
You are more than welcome.	Marcuse	Jul 2020	#81
Biden was asked - what do you think he should have done?	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2020	#63
Smart and reasonable position by Joe.	Steelrolled	Jul 2020	#44
Maybe reverse psychology	Bayard	Jul 2020	#48
totaly agree with Biden, the only shame we have are with Confederate monuments	beachbumbob	Jul 2020	#49
The confederate statues are there to celebrate people who believed in owning other people,	still_one	Jul 2020	#51
What about lincoln?	milestogo	Jul 2020	#52
Has there been much discussion about tearing down Lincoln statues?	Sapient Donkey	Jul 2020	#68
Yes.	milestogo	Jul 2020	#69
Ahhh damn.	Sapient Donkey	Jul 2020	#79
What about FDR?	ripcord	Jul 2020	#72
University of Wisconsin	Jimbo S	Jul 2020	#82
You know there will be non nude statues of a President Trump erected somewhere someday.	Marcuse	Jul 2020	#53
Washington and Jefferson, sure, but "Goodbye, Columbus"...	regnaD kciN	Jul 2020	#56
Interesting he included Columbus in there.	Sapient Donkey	Jul 2020	#67
Columbus should come down but Biden is Right	Tom Rinaldo	Jul 2020	#71
AGREED!!!! This is not to say that new places cant be found for them and/or other	Kashkakat v.2.0	Jul 2020	#74

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