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BumRushDaShow

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41. The ACA & PPA
Thu Jun 3, 2021, 05:11 PM
Jun 2021

which I watched the hearings and markups for, that went on in both chambers in multiple committees, and watched the debates on the final legislation (including the joint effort to reconcile the 2 different bills), required 60 votes to advance in the Senate, and Democrats only got that 60 vote majority during the summer of 2009, with a defection of Arlen Specter from R to D.

But with the pontificating Max Baucus and Joe Lieberman, along with 17 anti-abortion House Democrats lead by Bart Stupak, what was left of the final iteration of the consolidated bill, managed to get passed in December 2009 with the temp (D) replacement for Ted Kennedy, who died that summer before the bill became law.

And when Massachusetts decided to vote for fucking GOP Senator Scott Brown that same December 2009 (in the MA special election to replace Ted Kennedy), that killed the 60 votes needed to get a "fix" (able to invoke cloture) for what was originally passed, and they had to do the final piece the next spring by reconciliation with only 59 votes (which was more than enough for the simple majority needed for that type of legislative process), which limited the types of things that could be put in. Then the SCOTUS came around and killed the mandate.

We are in a different world today - barely having a majority in the Senate, which is only due to having the VP (who is the technical President of the Senate), who can cast a tie-breaking vote for a simple majority.

I feel seta1950 Jun 2021 #1
We went from 2.2 to 1.8 to 'round 1 trilion and corporate still get a free pass. LizBeth Jun 2021 #2
soon it will be just called pave a road bill if he keeps trying to placate the fascists. nt yaesu Jun 2021 #21
+1 LizBeth Jun 2021 #22
This would actually get MORE revenue from corporations oldsoftie Jun 2021 #27
More concerned with the "around" a trillion LizBeth Jun 2021 #28
There won't be any compromise with the republicans, and I predict no later than two JohnSJ Jun 2021 #3
Yup - he's got another reconcilliation option there BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #12
I hope when they go alone they bring it back to the 2.2 and not 1 trillion there abouts. LizBeth Jun 2021 #23
I agree. tecelote Jun 2021 #30
I don't see why not JohnSJ Jun 2021 #33
Yeah EndlessWire Jun 2021 #4
Everybody knows the trick why don't the Democrats droidamus2 Jun 2021 #5
This has to be a fucking joke, right??????? AZ8theist Jun 2021 #6
REPEAL AND REPLACE THE FUCKING TRUMP TAX SCAM. AZ8theist Jun 2021 #7
LMAO aocommunalpunch Jun 2021 #8
I thought Democrats learned the lesson with the ACA. Biden should have. Lonestarblue Jun 2021 #9
+1 LizBeth Jun 2021 #24
So it's more important to cave Glaisne Jun 2021 #10
So, we capitulating AGAIN, right? LenaBaby61 Jun 2021 #11
Republicans won't be happy until gas tax is $2 a gallon and half of it goes to tax cuts for them bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #13
FFS, Joe. Read the room. intheflow Jun 2021 #14
No Marthe48 Jun 2021 #15
We all know they will water down the bill and not vote for it anyway FloridaBlues Jun 2021 #16
A very smart move liberalgunwilltravel Jun 2021 #17
I basically posted that above BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #18
Sorry liberalgunwilltravel Jun 2021 #34
Apparently based on Manchin BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #35
That's my take liberalgunwilltravel Jun 2021 #38
The excerpts from the WaPo opinion piece I had posted upthread BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #39
YES!! But too many have that "hit 'em hard" reaction oldsoftie Jun 2021 #26
I agree that this is aimed toward Manchin and Sinema. patphil Jun 2021 #31
Yeah, sure - that's what we heard in 2009 and look at what happened - if Ted Kennedy had not been Hestia Jun 2021 #42
Now, where have we seen THIS trick before? Moostache Jun 2021 #19
Hopefully It's Kabuki WHITT Jun 2021 #20
FINALLY looking at reality oldsoftie Jun 2021 #25
This is the moment for Manchin and Sinema stillcool Jun 2021 #29
The corporate tax rate proposal doesn't sound bad mvd Jun 2021 #32
Joe, you know when they say 'bipartisan' they mean louis-t Jun 2021 #36
Biden knows they would vote against it anyway. This is just a perfunctory step to placate Manchin. PSPS Jun 2021 #37
This is Obamacare 2.0. The Reich Wing will sign nothing. kairos12 Jun 2021 #40
The ACA & PPA BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #41
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