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NNadir

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18. Do you work for the fossil fuel industry?
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:45 AM
Aug 2021

Last edited Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:31 AM - Edit history (1)

My post contains reference to a scientific publication giving the daily death toll connected with the use of dangerous fossil fuels, to which you haver no comment other to claim that the only reason that anyone can take an ethical position is for money.

It's a pretty typical response I've heard over the last 30 years from anti-nukes. Almost all of them have a very low ethical reasoning ability, thinking in a rather bourgeois fashion that the entire world is about money.

I work in the pharmaceutical industry, if you must know. I really have no need to tell anti-nukes what I do for a living, but given their obvious hatred of science, I'll make an exception here, and let you know that the evil life saving industry in which I work is the pharmaceutical industry. I'm a scientist.

Since you already clearly are unfamiliar with epidemiological science, and hate it, and can't identify 19,000 people who died from plutonium equivalent to the death toll from air pollution in the last 50 years that will take place today from air pollution, I'll take this as further indication that anti-nukes are equivalent to anti-vaxxers.

In general both sets of people kill other people by trumpeting their ignorance.

Nuclear energy doesn't need to be risk free to save lives, any more than vaccines or antibiotics or cancer drugs need to be risk free to save lives:

Nevertheless, the famous climate scientist Jim Hansen and a colleague have published a very famous and widely read scientific publication statically showing the mechanism by which nuclear energy saves lives.

Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power (Pushker A. Kharecha* and James E. Hansen Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 4889–4895)

Of course, antinukes don't have "time" to read scientific publications, don't care about their contents.

I am spectacularly disinterested in the use of time by anti-nuke anti-vax types like say the famous fool Robert F. Kennedy, but when an idiotic statement he makes becomes makes its way around the internet, ethical people are appalled.

Most of the time people of this unethical and ignorant ilk spend is directed toward pernicious indifference to human life, and thus is worthless.

I'd suggest opening a science book, but people who hate science, present company included, experience teaches, won't do so.

NO! Just plain no! n/t nocoincidences Aug 2021 #1
Horror movie imitates life, Jetheels Aug 2021 #2
Godzilla! Bayard Aug 2021 #3
The decision has been made by Japan: dilution is the solution Submariner Aug 2021 #4
I don't want to bring a Geiger Counter to the fish department. no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #5
Unfortunately. Snackshack Aug 2021 #6
RIGHT This is why nuclear power is not the answer. elleng Aug 2021 #7
Let's be clear on something OK? NNadir Aug 2021 #11
So everything. Snackshack Aug 2021 #15
Your body contains about 4000 Beq of radioactive potassium-40 if you weigh 70 kg. NNadir Aug 2021 #19
To be fair, that was an old reactor right next to a coast with a history of huge tsunamis betsuni Aug 2021 #17
The ocean naturally has a huge amount of radioactive uranium suspended in the water madville Aug 2021 #8
Quadruple Meltdown includes one plutonium reactor. Kid Berwyn Aug 2021 #9
That's OK. Very few anti-nukes mention the 19,000 people who die every damned day from air... NNadir Aug 2021 #13
Great condescension! Kid Berwyn Aug 2021 #16
Do you work for the fossil fuel industry? NNadir Aug 2021 #18
Great ad hominem. Kid Berwyn Aug 2021 #20
Isn't it amusing how we can't release low level tritiated water without protests, and yet... NNadir Aug 2021 #10
The saddest thing is... Jedi Guy Aug 2021 #12
Right. Deliberate ignorance is the worst form of ignorance. We're seeing exactly that... NNadir Aug 2021 #14
Japan dumps worse shit in the ocean and atmosphere every fucking minute. So does the U.S.A. hunter Aug 2021 #21
K an R for a most important topic. oasis Aug 2021 #22
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