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In reply to the discussion: Ukrainian President Zelensky says NATO's Article 5 "has never been as weak as it is now" [View all]Polybius
(15,481 posts)86. Which is exactly why Ukraine was foolish to give up their nukes
They should have kept them.
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Ukrainian President Zelensky says NATO's Article 5 "has never been as weak as it is now" [View all]
bluewater
Mar 2022
OP
If NATO won't defend genocide in a huge country like Ukraine, why would they defend Latvia?
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2022
#5
Please get a grip. Ukraine is not a NATO member. I'm sorry too but that's the way it is.
PSPS
Mar 2022
#12
I disagree. Putin will fear that a Baltic invasion will unleash NATO and its "nukes."
PSPS
Mar 2022
#28
Yes, my friend. We're all just along for the ride to our collective future (if any!)
PSPS
Mar 2022
#35
The Baltics will be seized after Russia catches its breath following the Ukraine genocide. Nt
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2022
#25
NATO is acting weak, while Putin acts strong. So far, Putin has called NATO's bluff.
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2022
#64
Putin only needs to remain in power to "succeed" in Ukraine, that's it.
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2022
#59
And this is why Putin will seize the Baltic states with ease, if he gets away with Ukraine. Nt
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2022
#6
I'm happy to be wrong about this, but Marie Yavanovich and Zelenskyy agree. Nt
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2022
#13
Well, we all have our opinions, but I don't want to trigger a nuclear response until we have to.
PSPS
Mar 2022
#16
Putin "gets away" with Ukraine if he continues to sow destruction, and remains in power.
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2022
#15
Atricle 5 was invoked after 9/11. It was never meant to cover invasions of non-member states.
PSPS
Mar 2022
#18
I agree, this was a misstep on his part. It doesn't serve him well to bash NATO like this.
PSPS
Mar 2022
#23
Someone just posted that Turkey tried to invoke Articke 5 re: Syria and was rebuffed
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2022
#17
If Russia didn't have nukes, NATO would already be in Ukraine, regardless that they aren't in NATO
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2022
#31
" instead of stalking me" You mean replying to your posts and pointing out errors?
bluewater
Mar 2022
#53
Who said threaten? I just said Putin should be afraid NATO would use nukes.
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2022
#61
NATO policy has been to THREATEN to use nukes first actually, even against a conventional attack
bluewater
Mar 2022
#66
If NATO is as weak as people on DU seem to think it is, then Trump was right to want to get out.
Gore1FL
Mar 2022
#26
Two Libyan SU-22's attacked U.S. planes in the gulf of Sidra in the early 1980s.
Gore1FL
Mar 2022
#37
I didn't. The specific statement in post 30 that mentioned the congress declaration requirement.
Gore1FL
Mar 2022
#50
Unless Putin really want to start WWIII I don't think he would attack a NATO country.
marie999
Mar 2022
#56