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Miguelito Loveless

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3. Might as well strike the provision

Reply to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2023, 08:15 PM

Nov 2023

From the Constitution since nobody is going to enforce it.

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Colorado judge keeps Trump on 2024 primary ballot as latest 14th Amendment case falters [View all] LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 OP

Colorado 14th Amendment case LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #1

Sadly, removing him from ballot never had a chance without a conviction. Silent Type Nov 2023 #2

According to whom? dpibel Nov 2023 #4

Sure, after you point out where it says anyone can claim he's an insurrectionist. We need to beat trump at polls Silent Type Nov 2023 #8

Quite a different argument dpibel Nov 2023 #9

I find it best to read posts for content, rather than pointing at, and mouthing, each word, looking Silent Type Nov 2023 #11

LOL dpibel Nov 2023 #12

Are there other crimes that you can be punished for without a conviction? FBaggins Nov 2023 #43

DQ from federal office is not criminal dpibel Nov 2023 #51

Well, the 14th would require charge to be true Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #28

In this case it has been judged true dpibel Nov 2023 #41

Untrue FBaggins Nov 2023 #44

You've presumed your conclusion dpibel Nov 2023 #49

Aren't we presumed innocent until proven guilty? Why would this be different? oldsoftie Nov 2023 #36

That is not the holding. TomSlick Nov 2023 #16

Maybe they thought it was glaringly obvious that the presidency was the preeminent office in the country. LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #17

They weren't focused on that office. carpetbagger Nov 2023 #40

The judge said he's on ballot, all the other stuff carries little, if any, weight. Michigan also dismissed Silent Type Nov 2023 #23

Watched a fairly comprehensive program on C-SPAN that addressed the applicability of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. 24601 Nov 2023 #24

So parents preserving, protecting, and defending their children are not supporting them? Nonsense Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #29

Actual words make the difference in determining legal outcomes. Bronston v. United States, 409 U.S. 352 (1973) for 24601 Nov 2023 #35

Interesting and good analysis and background Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #42

Thanks n/t 24601 Nov 2023 #46

Thank our atty gen for wasting a year before doing something about all this. diverdownjt Nov 2023 #31

Might as well strike the provision Miguelito Loveless Nov 2023 #3

The problem is who gets to decide what is or isn't insurrection? Polybius Nov 2023 #22

Colorado judge rules Trump 'engaged in insurrection' -- but can still run for president LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #5

"the 14th Amendment's ban on insurrectionists holding office does not apply to the president. ." was the Ruling......... riversedge Nov 2023 #10

Interesting decision.... scotus may not concur getagrip_already Nov 2023 #6

The courts are a afraid of him and his base. IMO republianmushroom Nov 2023 #7

I see. Judges that are dealing with Trump's criminal charges aren't afraid of him... brooklynite Nov 2023 #21

"any office, civil or military, under the United States," What office does the President come under ? Civil office? Mr. Sparkle Nov 2023 #13

That wasn't the part of 14A that the judge ruled was an issue FBaggins Nov 2023 #45

This is BS. Since when does insurrection happen then? He tried to circumvent a election victory by SWBTATTReg Nov 2023 #14

Could wind up to be the second most poorly worded amendment hydrolastic Nov 2023 #15

0 for 3. brooklynite Nov 2023 #18

As a legal matter? dpibel Nov 2023 #19

The gambit was trying to stop Trump from getting elected by kicking him off the ballot... brooklynite Nov 2023 #20

Ok for the primary; how about the general election? Grins Nov 2023 #25

Nice try ._. Nov 2023 #26

Prof. Tribe and Judge Luttig thinks that this ruling will end being a win LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #27

Cowards, all. Drum Nov 2023 #30

Sarah Wallace is a traitor. n/t D23MIURG23 Nov 2023 #32

It's not all bad. CCExile Nov 2023 #33

I like that idea. ... Hotler Nov 2023 #34

So...how many coups does one have to attempt so they DO enforce it? canuckledragger Nov 2023 #37

Professor Tribe and Judge Luttig explain why the Colorado 14th Amendment decision is wrong LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #38

Professor Tribe and Judge Luttig are great on TV, but I sure wouldn't want them defending me. Luttig takes Silent Type Nov 2023 #39

LMPV -- I don't understand Hekate Nov 2023 #47

CO judge's 'bizarro' Trump eligibility ruling ripped apart by constitutional law experts LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #48

So what about all those Congress members who also participated? intrepidity Nov 2023 #50

Plaintiffs will appeal Colorado's decision to allow Trump to remain on the ballot LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #52

The Colorado Supreme Court set arguments for 12/6 in the TFG 14th Amendment disqualification case LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #53

I look for the next court to keep him off the ballot. Emile Nov 2023 #54