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Colorado 14th Amendment case LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #1
Sadly, removing him from ballot never had a chance without a conviction. Silent Type Nov 2023 #2
According to whom? dpibel Nov 2023 #4
Sure, after you point out where it says anyone can claim he's an insurrectionist. We need to beat trump at polls Silent Type Nov 2023 #8
Quite a different argument dpibel Nov 2023 #9
I find it best to read posts for content, rather than pointing at, and mouthing, each word, looking Silent Type Nov 2023 #11
LOL dpibel Nov 2023 #12
Are there other crimes that you can be punished for without a conviction? FBaggins Nov 2023 #43
DQ from federal office is not criminal dpibel Nov 2023 #51
Well, the 14th would require charge to be true Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #28
In this case it has been judged true dpibel Nov 2023 #41
Untrue FBaggins Nov 2023 #44
You've presumed your conclusion dpibel Nov 2023 #49
Aren't we presumed innocent until proven guilty? Why would this be different? oldsoftie Nov 2023 #36
That is not the holding. TomSlick Nov 2023 #16
Maybe they thought it was glaringly obvious that the presidency was the preeminent office in the country. LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #17
They weren't focused on that office. carpetbagger Nov 2023 #40
The judge said he's on ballot, all the other stuff carries little, if any, weight. Michigan also dismissed Silent Type Nov 2023 #23
Watched a fairly comprehensive program on C-SPAN that addressed the applicability of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. 24601 Nov 2023 #24
So parents preserving, protecting, and defending their children are not supporting them? Nonsense Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #29
Actual words make the difference in determining legal outcomes. Bronston v. United States, 409 U.S. 352 (1973) for 24601 Nov 2023 #35
Interesting and good analysis and background Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #42
Thanks n/t 24601 Nov 2023 #46
Thank our atty gen for wasting a year before doing something about all this. diverdownjt Nov 2023 #31
Might as well strike the provision Miguelito Loveless Nov 2023 #3
The problem is who gets to decide what is or isn't insurrection? Polybius Nov 2023 #22
Colorado judge rules Trump 'engaged in insurrection' -- but can still run for president LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #5
"the 14th Amendment's ban on insurrectionists holding office does not apply to the president. ." was the Ruling......... riversedge Nov 2023 #10
Interesting decision.... scotus may not concur getagrip_already Nov 2023 #6
The courts are a afraid of him and his base. IMO republianmushroom Nov 2023 #7
I see. Judges that are dealing with Trump's criminal charges aren't afraid of him... brooklynite Nov 2023 #21
"any office, civil or military, under the United States," What office does the President come under ? Civil office? Mr. Sparkle Nov 2023 #13
That wasn't the part of 14A that the judge ruled was an issue FBaggins Nov 2023 #45
This is BS. Since when does insurrection happen then? He tried to circumvent a election victory by SWBTATTReg Nov 2023 #14
Could wind up to be the second most poorly worded amendment hydrolastic Nov 2023 #15
0 for 3. brooklynite Nov 2023 #18
As a legal matter? dpibel Nov 2023 #19
The gambit was trying to stop Trump from getting elected by kicking him off the ballot... brooklynite Nov 2023 #20
Ok for the primary; how about the general election? Grins Nov 2023 #25
Nice try ._. Nov 2023 #26
Prof. Tribe and Judge Luttig thinks that this ruling will end being a win LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #27
Cowards, all. Drum Nov 2023 #30
Sarah Wallace is a traitor. n/t D23MIURG23 Nov 2023 #32
It's not all bad. CCExile Nov 2023 #33
I like that idea. ... Hotler Nov 2023 #34
So...how many coups does one have to attempt so they DO enforce it? canuckledragger Nov 2023 #37
Professor Tribe and Judge Luttig explain why the Colorado 14th Amendment decision is wrong LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #38
Professor Tribe and Judge Luttig are great on TV, but I sure wouldn't want them defending me. Luttig takes Silent Type Nov 2023 #39
LMPV -- I don't understand Hekate Nov 2023 #47
CO judge's 'bizarro' Trump eligibility ruling ripped apart by constitutional law experts LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #48
So what about all those Congress members who also participated? intrepidity Nov 2023 #50
Plaintiffs will appeal Colorado's decision to allow Trump to remain on the ballot LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #52
The Colorado Supreme Court set arguments for 12/6 in the TFG 14th Amendment disqualification case LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #53
I look for the next court to keep him off the ballot. Emile Nov 2023 #54
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