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In reply to the discussion: Asperger's dropped from revised diagnosis manual [View all]proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)103. Obfuscate all you want, but it's clear answers are forthcoming. Start with confusing 2 with 21.
Again, I defer to the published analyses of people with a personal stake in getting this issue right for love and no other reason. Motivation matters.
http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/12/poul-thorsen-called-industry-scumbag-scientist-and-mercury-shill.html
By Jim Thompson
Jim Thompson is a registered professional engineer. He and his wife Susan live and work in rural South Dakota. Their first granddaughter, Taylor Haug, was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder, epilepsy, verbal apraxia, motor disorder, and sensory integration disorder. Her loving memory has influenced his familys decision to help protect children from vaccine injuries.
Posted by Age of Autism at December 05, 2012 at 5:45 AM
Last week Dr. Coleen Boyle, director of the U.S. CDC National Center on Birth Defects and Development Disabilities, testified before Congress in regard to a probe into the CDCs dismal response to the Autism epidemic in this country. In stark contrast to this epidemic, Dr. Boyle defended the CDCs actions of both recommending as well as funding the injection of flu vaccines with the preservative Thimerosal for injection into the bodies of children and pregnant women (Federal Vaccine For Children Program) and (CDC List of Vaccines for Children Program with Thimerosal). This hopeless fact that the CDC still recommends this as safe was defended by elusive references to studies by industry scientists.
Upon questioning by US Representative Bill Posey in regard to an industry scientist Poul Thorsen, who is still on the FBI wanted list for defrauding the CDC for over a million dollars, Mr. Posey declared, This guy is a humongous scum bag and one of the most wanted men on earth. Then Mr. Posey asked why the CDC relied on the studies by him. Dr. Boyle responded that there were only two studies on autism with this indicted scientist listed as contributing author. When asked why multi-dose vials of flu vaccine still contain Thimerosal, Dr. Boyle responded, I can provide you with that information [later]. When asked how many multi-dose vials of the flu vaccine still contain Thimerosal, Dr. Boyle replied in the same way.
So how many studies were published by this humongous scum bag and how many multi-dose shots of flu vaccine are there?
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Since 2002 there were twenty one autism studies published by P.Thorsen -- four of which were published since the April 13, 2011 federal indictment of this humongous scum bag. Apparently some journals could care less about the indictment and continue to publish papers by this corrupt industry scientist. Another one came out just last month.
So like the corrupt industry scientists of the past who all concluded that tobacco was safe, there seem to be industry scientists today who conclude that mercury, which is proven to kill brain cells, is safe to inject into children and pregnant women in the form of Thimerosal vaccine preservative.
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By Jim Thompson
Jim Thompson is a registered professional engineer. He and his wife Susan live and work in rural South Dakota. Their first granddaughter, Taylor Haug, was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder, epilepsy, verbal apraxia, motor disorder, and sensory integration disorder. Her loving memory has influenced his familys decision to help protect children from vaccine injuries.
Posted by Age of Autism at December 05, 2012 at 5:45 AM
Last week Dr. Coleen Boyle, director of the U.S. CDC National Center on Birth Defects and Development Disabilities, testified before Congress in regard to a probe into the CDCs dismal response to the Autism epidemic in this country. In stark contrast to this epidemic, Dr. Boyle defended the CDCs actions of both recommending as well as funding the injection of flu vaccines with the preservative Thimerosal for injection into the bodies of children and pregnant women (Federal Vaccine For Children Program) and (CDC List of Vaccines for Children Program with Thimerosal). This hopeless fact that the CDC still recommends this as safe was defended by elusive references to studies by industry scientists.
Upon questioning by US Representative Bill Posey in regard to an industry scientist Poul Thorsen, who is still on the FBI wanted list for defrauding the CDC for over a million dollars, Mr. Posey declared, This guy is a humongous scum bag and one of the most wanted men on earth. Then Mr. Posey asked why the CDC relied on the studies by him. Dr. Boyle responded that there were only two studies on autism with this indicted scientist listed as contributing author. When asked why multi-dose vials of flu vaccine still contain Thimerosal, Dr. Boyle responded, I can provide you with that information [later]. When asked how many multi-dose vials of the flu vaccine still contain Thimerosal, Dr. Boyle replied in the same way.
So how many studies were published by this humongous scum bag and how many multi-dose shots of flu vaccine are there?
<>
Since 2002 there were twenty one autism studies published by P.Thorsen -- four of which were published since the April 13, 2011 federal indictment of this humongous scum bag. Apparently some journals could care less about the indictment and continue to publish papers by this corrupt industry scientist. Another one came out just last month.
So like the corrupt industry scientists of the past who all concluded that tobacco was safe, there seem to be industry scientists today who conclude that mercury, which is proven to kill brain cells, is safe to inject into children and pregnant women in the form of Thimerosal vaccine preservative.
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PREDICTION: "Autism isn’t a separate mental condition, it is a medical disorder. Big difference."
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#49
Check it out. Wouldn't you like to know whether his input ended after this came to light?
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#2
I'm sorry, the guy's indictment for fraud isn't woo, nor his involvement in redefining autism. nt
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#6
Treating this guy's wrong-doing as evidence for anti-vax BS is a red herring...
Odin2005
Dec 2012
#9
Meanwhile, largely thanks to antivac woo, pertussis is on the rise and killing people.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2012
#55
Off-topic, sorry, but that's inaccurate according to JAMA. Please research it.
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#69
If you had any scientific evidence of a link, you wouldn't have to rely on character assassination.
jeff47
Dec 2012
#82
Three are leading establishment autism researchers. Why don't you look for their publications?
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#99
Obfuscate all you want, but it's clear answers are forthcoming. Start with confusing 2 with 21.
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#103
On the contrary, AoA writers are ALL adamant no study has ever been done comparing the two groups.
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#104
"WE HAVE NOT STUDIED VACCINATED VS UNVACCINATED," CDC's Dr. Coleen A. Boyle @ minute 2:34.
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#106
Nope. I'm providing analyses by experts for the layperson, and it's absurd to require otherwise.
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#110
Nonsense and about those 'criminal fraud charges,' just give it a little time.
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#112
'Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle.' -Michelangelo.
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#114
So true Odin2005- and some of the comments are SO inappropriate and insensitive.
BeHereNow
Dec 2012
#32
psychiatry and psychology are a very inexact studies - they really cannot be called science
Douglas Carpenter
Dec 2012
#10
How is this late breaking news. This change has been known to the mental health profession for years
olddad56
Dec 2012
#18
Talk about a branch of idiocy based on non-science. The scientific method is NEVER used
LittlestStar
Dec 2012
#21
"Any single person could walk into a shrinks office and get diagnosed with anything..."
greiner3
Dec 2012
#22
(Off topic) Seen this? Rare, but really ugly relatively recent allegations supporting tama's post.
proverbialwisdom
Dec 2012
#97
Scientific method never used? Tell that to B.F. Skinner or Roger Sperry (Nobel laureate)
NoodleyAppendage
Dec 2012
#33
The real problem is that doctors who are NOT QUALIFIED to make mental health diagnoses...
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#43
Same is true for any doctor. If I insist to my GP I have pain in my back, he'll give me meds
Happyhippychick
Dec 2012
#46
No, anti-vaxers deserve summary dismissal based on previously established lack of scientific merit
Occulus
Dec 2012
#80
It may seem like a social construction to you, but if you ever have the misfortune of being in...
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#45
Neither Race nor Gender Constitute an Intrinsic Threat to Survival of the Individual
Demeter
Dec 2012
#48
so true. it is this medical model that prevents people from going into this career field...
olddad56
Dec 2012
#66
I doubt very much that you will lose any benefits because of your son's condition being re-named
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#89