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In reply to the discussion: National Anti-Fracking Group Launched... [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)56. I don't usually bother with people who are dismissive, call names and give no facts.
Or refuse to re-evaluate their comments based on those given them. While I did not give him the science, it's been widely quoted on DU.
Even the fact that it is in fact not a new practice at all, but now being applied where it should not be was disclosed on another thread. Even if there was no real issue with the people who are against it, there is real problem with social responsibility that loudsue made a clear case on.
The examples of methane or other gases under the ground escaping are not what we're talking about and anyone who reads the replies sees the poster that you mention did not make a logical process. It was all over the place. But I'm going to leave off giving him a bad time as we can have a productive discussion without discussing his errors.
I am glad to hear of a group forming on this with so many different kinds of activists involved. I also want as Democrats for us to address the greater problem of employment for those who work on this industry, want a living wage for work an environmentally helpful and not destructive.
We need an altnerative to this for those people to get their support, and to press alternative energies and consevation. We have got to get serious about finding the solutions on this.
Above all, we must protect the nation's natural water supply. We do not want to become dependent on a system such as the some countries who never had decent water and have to use seawater processed through a desalinization plant.
We have been very fortunate to have a continent to live on that should be able to sustain all of our needs. Fracking is not going to allow that to happen.
Even the fact that it is in fact not a new practice at all, but now being applied where it should not be was disclosed on another thread. Even if there was no real issue with the people who are against it, there is real problem with social responsibility that loudsue made a clear case on.
The examples of methane or other gases under the ground escaping are not what we're talking about and anyone who reads the replies sees the poster that you mention did not make a logical process. It was all over the place. But I'm going to leave off giving him a bad time as we can have a productive discussion without discussing his errors.
I am glad to hear of a group forming on this with so many different kinds of activists involved. I also want as Democrats for us to address the greater problem of employment for those who work on this industry, want a living wage for work an environmentally helpful and not destructive.
We need an altnerative to this for those people to get their support, and to press alternative energies and consevation. We have got to get serious about finding the solutions on this.
Above all, we must protect the nation's natural water supply. We do not want to become dependent on a system such as the some countries who never had decent water and have to use seawater processed through a desalinization plant.
We have been very fortunate to have a continent to live on that should be able to sustain all of our needs. Fracking is not going to allow that to happen.
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There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that fracking fluids have EVER contaminated drinking water.
Indydem
Dec 2012
#24
"natural chemicals" that the industry won't reveal? Apparently, you work for the industry
wordpix
Dec 2012
#50
there's plenty of peer reviewed science on this and safe process? You gotta be kidding
wordpix
Dec 2012
#49
A flaming tap and a glass full of toxic water, and you might rethink that comment.
NEOBuckeye
Dec 2012
#6
There are perfectly normal and natural methane pockets that end up in aquifers.
Indydem
Dec 2012
#23
this guy from the film Gasland did not have his water ignite until fracking came to his 'hood
wordpix
Dec 2012
#47
You bet. From GD - "Bayou Frack-Out: The Massive Oil and Gas Disaster You’ve Never Heard Of"...
Indi Guy
Dec 2012
#36
DU has had many threads on fracking. The process is not new, but is a major polluter, IMO.
freshwest
Dec 2012
#12
Sound like good Democrats to me. When I was in the Young Democrats in college, we helped to organize
freshwest
Dec 2012
#15
I don't usually bother with people who are dismissive, call names and give no facts.
freshwest
Dec 2012
#56
I doubt it has, or will prove them wrong. Did you note the Calvin & Hobbes pic? That's what this is.
freshwest
Dec 2012
#42
He doesn't need to convince you. Economics has convinced him. I'm not apologizing, just explaining
freshwest
Dec 2012
#48
Looks good, I hope a LOT of people see this. And RFK, Jr. has my utmost respect on all issues.
freshwest
Dec 2012
#57
Many major reputations and credibility at stake there, not hit and run like some. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#54
Let me suggest to you that the industry does not act with such caution, so why must people?
NEOBuckeye
Dec 2012
#19
Unfortunately the term "conservation" is foreign to today's "conservative" lexicon...
Indi Guy
Dec 2012
#71
Duke study finds “systematic evidence for methane contamination of drinking water associated with sh
limpyhobbler
Dec 2012
#65