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CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
21. No, that's not the analogy.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 10:37 PM
Apr 2013

The GOP mantra is that the free market is the answer to any economic woes, and they also like to claim that the social safety net encourages dependency. It's closer to the mindset of 19th century Britons regarding the Great Famine in Ireland.

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/victorians/famine_01.shtml[/url]

Recent historians of the famine, while not neglecting the baleful role of the doctrine of laissez-faire, have been inclined to stress the potent parts played by two other ideologies of the time: those of 'providentialism' and 'moralism'. There was a very widespread belief among members of the British upper and middle classes that the famine was a divine judgment-an act of Providence-against the kind of Irish agrarian regime that was believed to have given rise to the famine. The Irish system of agriculture was perceived in Britain to be riddled with inefficiency and abuse. According to British policy-makers at the time, the workings of divine Providence were disclosed in the unfettered operations of the market economy, and therefore it was positively evil to interfere with its proper functioning.

A leading exponent of this providentialist perspective was Sir Charles Trevelyan, the British civil servant chiefly responsible for administering Irish relief policy throughout the famine years. In his book The Irish Crisis, published in 1848, Trevelyan described the famine as 'a direct stroke of an all-wise and all-merciful Providence', one which laid bare 'the deep and inveterate root of social evil'. The famine, he declared, was 'the sharp but effectual remedy by which the cure is likely to be effected... God grant that the generation to which this great opportunity has been offered may rightly perform its part...' This mentality of Trevelyan's was influential in persuading the government to do nothing to restrain mass evictions - and this had the obvious effect of radically restructuring Irish rural society along the lines of the capitalistic model ardently preferred by British policy-makers.

Finally, we come to 'moralism'-the notion that the fundamental defects from which the Irish suffered were moral rather than financial. Educated Britons of this era saw serious defects in the Irish 'national character'-disorder or violence, filth, laziness, and worst of all, a lack of self-reliance. This amounted to a kind of racial or cultural stereotyping. The Irish had to be taught to stand on their own feet and to unlearn their dependence on government.


Sound familiar?

If born to poor parents, the GOP would just as soon starve that newborn. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #1
Or... Scairp Apr 2013 #25
Sheesh matt819 Apr 2013 #2
Prince Dumbass can only hope you look away from his little GOP dungheap Blue Owl Apr 2013 #3
And that crap is why all these GOP fools are trying to defund PP. Lies and sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #4
No, Mr. Penis, we don't. I'd support flushing your lame ass down the toilet though. Scuba Apr 2013 #5
How come Reince Priebus only has 2 kids??? no sex?, infertal? or infanticide?? Sunlei Apr 2013 #6
Seeing as the GOP is opposed to access to health care for all... CBHagman Apr 2013 #7
That's the elephant in the room! atreides1 Apr 2013 #16
No, that's not the analogy. CBHagman Apr 2013 #21
Yes, all too familiar. Boomerproud Apr 2013 #30
The GOP obviously thinks it's better for them to grow old enough to be target practice first. N/T DFW Apr 2013 #8
WTF??????? SoapBox Apr 2013 #9
Even if it were true, it's hypcritical that anone be pro-life AND pro-war. Gregorian Apr 2013 #10
Unfortunately, it's a common enough position. CBHagman Apr 2013 #39
Quite simply- injured children. Messed up people raised by messed up parents. Gregorian Apr 2013 #40
Rancid Priebus Plucketeer Apr 2013 #11
get this you dumbass rw fucks: planned parenthood provides health services noiretextatique Apr 2013 #12
Don't Abort That Child: Every Life is Scared! chuckstevens Apr 2013 #13
Republicans Support Murder by Guns otohara Apr 2013 #14
I wish we had a "thumbs up" or "thanks" button so that mercymechap Apr 2013 #15
Thanks otohara Apr 2013 #18
Like the GOP gives one shit about a baby once it's born. Fuck him Beaverhausen Apr 2013 #17
+1 for the truth. classof56 Apr 2013 #19
Rancid Penis is showing his true colors, pandering to the stooopids wordpix Apr 2013 #20
Fuck you Reince Priebus 47of74 Apr 2013 #22
Next DBoon Apr 2013 #23
That is absolutely ridiculous. If a baby is born, its life should be protected. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #24
After viability, the docs do all they can to save a viable fetus Warpy Apr 2013 #26
And that's why the provider should be a medical doctor and have admitting priveleges at a hospital. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #32
Bullshit. That will not keep patients safe. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #34
It's between a woman and her doctor. Which requires, you know, a doctor. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #37
I was talking about that admitting privileges requirement that YOU brought up. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #38
Way to go, Rancid! Join up with the "wetbacks" guy and go for it! You'll make SO CTyankee Apr 2013 #27
Yeah, cause there's no way this could backfire. Arkana Apr 2013 #28
Kick for the update n/t alp227 Apr 2013 #29
As I've said all along,... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #31
I can't wait for the backlash upon these fools steve2470 Apr 2013 #33
The GOP only care about a fetus, not babies, and certainly not poor women and their families. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #35
I agree nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #36
How many babies and pregnant women did you repuke fucks murder during "Shock And Awe"? Aristus Apr 2013 #41
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