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19. And the public needs to weigh in LOUDLY, either way. nt

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MoveOn Calls Obama’s Proposed Social Security Cuts ‘Unconscionable’ [View all] Hissyspit Apr 2013 OP

so do I hobbit709 Apr 2013 #1

+1 grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #27

+2 840high Apr 2013 #46

Pay no attention. They're just a bunch of Obama haters RufusTFirefly Apr 2013 #2

The Pres said he wanted us to hold his feet to the fire. Millions of us DONT WANT SS AND MEDICARECUT rhett o rick Apr 2013 #3

Perhaps he is finally wearing his comfortable shoes R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 #12

Good one. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #22

Well, we have to speak louder and more constantly and more repetitively: calimary Apr 2013 #49

Ok, show me the cuts. Show me one SS payment that will be less than it is now. nt kelliekat44 Apr 2013 #58

Thanks for reminding me, whatever happened to COLA? Octafish Apr 2013 #92

MoveOn never loved him! OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #4

Why not, do you think? tblue Apr 2013 #50

Irrational haters like MoveOn OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #54

What's irrational is President Obama expecting people to not remember his words AndyA Apr 2013 #57

On January 25, 2011 he was running for a 2nd term dflprincess Apr 2013 #78

Adapting another's post, show us the slash. Put the numbers out that show it's a cut and not 24601 Apr 2013 #97

What difference does it make? AndyA Apr 2013 #103

It makes a difference only if you value truth and credibility. I'm a civil servant and President 24601 Apr 2013 #104

The bottom line: SS recipients will have less money to live on AndyA Apr 2013 #108

Snort. GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Occulus Apr 2013 #72

Calm down, man. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #76

You really had me there. tblue Apr 2013 #83

You never read onyx before have you, chill out man, he gets it and is ridiculing the cultists Dragonfli Apr 2013 #80

It's a heinous move. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #5

I'll second that. HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #8

I cannot believe I was almost less fearful for the future under jr's regime. Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #77

I read the link in the link........ George II Apr 2013 #6

There are cuts danbeee46 Apr 2013 #10

"This would serve to decrease the amount of future increases. " George II Apr 2013 #18

I understand and agree with your point, but GitRDun Apr 2013 #24

Not really, unless military pensions are not considered "defense"...... George II Apr 2013 #62

I was refering to defense spending as a whole... GitRDun Apr 2013 #64

No, failure to adjust for increased costs is a cut. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #30

Not really but......... George II Apr 2013 #102

Yes. It cut benefits grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #116

As a matter of fact, for 2012 the chained CPI would have yielded a HIGHER increase!! Surprise!! George II Apr 2013 #117

Not to be believed. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #118

And with the help of the media they will make millions bellieve that SS is being cut. kelliekat44 Apr 2013 #56

'smoldering bigotry'??? roomtomove Apr 2013 #70

I wouldn't even characterize it as "smoldering"....more like blatant.... George II Apr 2013 #87

Hello from Juror #2. Thank you for trying to stop the hate machine. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #93

But it will not keep up with the cost of living alarimer Apr 2013 #73

That is false.....people should do some research before they panic and start bashing... George II Apr 2013 #89

Would you mind rosesaylavee Apr 2013 #91

Sure...here are the sources of my information: George II Apr 2013 #96

View: Hissyspit Apr 2013 #98

All well and good........ George II Apr 2013 #101

Thank you for this table rosesaylavee Apr 2013 #110

The proposal means that cost-of-living increases will be set so that they do not keep amandabeech Apr 2013 #106

If the CPI was used this past year.... George II Apr 2013 #111

+1000 rosesaylavee Apr 2013 #114

Chained CPI zipplewrath Apr 2013 #11

Oh, so the "cut" is actually an increase. I thought so. George II Apr 2013 #14

No, it's a decrease in benefits provided by the program. eomer Apr 2013 #20

Not in economic terms zipplewrath Apr 2013 #21

Are you being deliberately stupid? bitchkitty Apr 2013 #38

Explain yourself, or don't insult people. George II Apr 2013 #59

Stop insulting everyone else's intelligence FIRST. Occulus Apr 2013 #109

If you weren't so busy insulting people here you would have seen that I posted REAL facts.... George II Apr 2013 #112

The way the Social Security COLAs are calculated now are inadequate dflprincess Apr 2013 #79

I also receive SS. vduhr Apr 2013 #15

Chained CPI means that the cost of living increases will be less than inflation amandabeech Apr 2013 #107

The current method of calculating the COLA results in increases less than inflation too.... George II Apr 2013 #113

Caveat Emptor disndat Apr 2013 #7

That tact is so old. Don't like what's said ...then attack the messenger. Pffft. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #31

The messenger wears no clothes. disndat Apr 2013 #48

Total FAIL: Ad Hominem attack. (definition) grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #32

+1. And you have to wonder how many of those "8 million members" are active. Why didn't they...... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #37

Because they are mostly Democrats who expect Democrats to defend the-- eridani Apr 2013 #85

How dare they speak negatively about an Obama move? Under the bus with them. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #9

They are correct. Smilo Apr 2013 #13

Raul Gravilla and the House Progressive Caucus have our six. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #16

Why? Because he is a soft sell shill for the ruling elite. He must be pushed. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #34

Its a ploy rtracey Apr 2013 #17

And the public needs to weigh in LOUDLY, either way. nt proverbialwisdom Apr 2013 #19

So the GOP stands for not cutting SS and Obama does. Yea that worked out great. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #29

Exactly. It would have to be the dumbest ploy ever. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #41

Instructions from the corporate sponsers of the "good cop bad cop" show. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #43

Absurdulous. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #40

Flawed logic lark Apr 2013 #47

Maybe it is because he John2 Apr 2013 #66

see what I mean rtracey Apr 2013 #63

Agreed! AnnieK401 Apr 2013 #86

OBAMA'S PROPOSED CUTS buck201 Apr 2013 #23

This post was alerted on. The jury voted 6/0 to let it stand! ohiosmith Apr 2013 #36

Haha! Good job, jury! tblue Apr 2013 #53

My pleasure! ohiosmith Apr 2013 #60

Obama's Proposed Cuts buck201 Apr 2013 #74

All caps is what they do over at freerepukeness ...and spell check is your friend. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #44

shhhh In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #51

But I've been assured that no such proposal has been made Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #25

I've been trying to tell people that no matter what Obama proposes, it will be rejected alfredo Apr 2013 #26

Then it makes even less sense to offer Union Scribe Apr 2013 #42

I think enough people know that any revenue in any plan, no matter alfredo Apr 2013 #55

+1000000000000000000000 treestar Apr 2013 #82

MoveOn is being kind. bvar22 Apr 2013 #28

If this is grandpamike1 Apr 2013 #33

I get what you're saying. tblue Apr 2013 #52

I agree. madfloridian Apr 2013 #35

well, moveon can relax, because just as we all knew, the plan was rejected OKNancy Apr 2013 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author lark Apr 2013 #45

Those drones aren't going to pay for themselves..... DeSwiss Apr 2013 #61

k&r n/t RainDog Apr 2013 #65

Here is a copy of MoveOn's appeal for URGENT ACTION: Faryn Balyncd Apr 2013 #67

Yes, hold Obama's feet to the fire disndat Apr 2013 #99

Chris Matthews just opened today's Hardball by lauding Obama's "courage" in proposing SS cuts. whathehell Apr 2013 #69

Thanks for calling him out BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #84

Anytime.....n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #95

Obama's Chained CPI Cuts to the Social Safety Net: Deplorable. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #71

Unconscionable and Obscene. jsr Apr 2013 #75

On but nothing Boner and the Rs do is! treestar Apr 2013 #81

I wonder if Obama was sent to the WH to destroy the Dem party Doctor_J Apr 2013 #88

a gift maybe? green for victory Apr 2013 #100

See post #73..... George II Apr 2013 #90

Obama and the GOP thought we weren't paying attention Joey Liberal Apr 2013 #94

Republicans get shellacked at the polls for pushing for cuts to these... Ash_F Apr 2013 #105

The proposed cut to social security is disgusting. musical_soul Apr 2013 #115