Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Latest Breaking News
In reply to the discussion: Leaked report shows high civilian death toll from CIA drone strikes [View all]Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)16. Our "image abroad" ?
Sorry to burst your happy propaganda bubble, but this is exactly what the USA has "stood for" for over a century, to acquire and maintain it's position of wealth and power. The big difference now is US authorities can't control the information that interested US citizens get so easily, because of the Internet and digital cameras and videos.
e.g. PhilippineAmerican War - 1899-1902 (after 1902, the "insurgents" were declared "brigands", so the "war" was over) - hundreds of thousands of dead women and children
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/02/25/080225fa_fact_kramer?currentPage=all
Within the first year of the war, news of atrocities by U.S. forcesthe torching of villages, the killing of prisonersbegan to appear in American newspapers. Although the U.S. military censored outgoing cables, stories crossed the Pacific through the mail, which wasnt censored. Soldiers, in their letters home, wrote about extreme violence against Filipinos, alongside complaints about the weather, the food, and their officers; and some of these letters were published in home-town newspapers. A letter by A. F. Miller, of the 32nd Volunteer Infantry Regiment, published in the Omaha World-Herald in May, 1900, told of how Millers unit uncovered hidden weapons by subjecting a prisoner to what he and others called the water cure. Now, this is the way we give them the water cure, he explained. Lay them on their backs, a man standing on each hand and each foot, then put a round stick in the mouth and pour a pail of water in the mouth and nose, and if they dont give up pour in another pail. They swell up like toads. Ill tell you it is a terrible torture.
Still, the subject of what was called, with a late-Victorian delicacy, cruelties by U.S. troops arose a few days into the hearings...
During his court-martial, Waller testified that he had been under orders from the volatile, aging Brigadier General Jacob Smith (Hell-Roaring Jake, to his comrades) to transform the island into a howling wilderness, to kill and burn to the greatest degree possibleThe more you kill and burn, the better it will please meand to shoot anyone capable of bearing arms. According to Waller, when he asked Smith what this last stipulation meant in practical terms, Smith had clarified that he thought that ten-year-old Filipino boys were capable of bearing arms.
More generally, some people, while conceding that American soldiers had engaged in cruelties, insisted that the behavior reflected the barbaric sensibilities of the Filipinos. I think I know why these things have happened, Lodge offered in a Senate speech in May. They had grown out of the conditions of warfare, of the war that was waged by the Filipinos themselves, a semicivilized people, with all the tendencies and characteristics of Asiatics, with the Asiatic indifference to life, with the Asiatic treachery and the Asiatic cruelty...
Still, the subject of what was called, with a late-Victorian delicacy, cruelties by U.S. troops arose a few days into the hearings...
During his court-martial, Waller testified that he had been under orders from the volatile, aging Brigadier General Jacob Smith (Hell-Roaring Jake, to his comrades) to transform the island into a howling wilderness, to kill and burn to the greatest degree possibleThe more you kill and burn, the better it will please meand to shoot anyone capable of bearing arms. According to Waller, when he asked Smith what this last stipulation meant in practical terms, Smith had clarified that he thought that ten-year-old Filipino boys were capable of bearing arms.
More generally, some people, while conceding that American soldiers had engaged in cruelties, insisted that the behavior reflected the barbaric sensibilities of the Filipinos. I think I know why these things have happened, Lodge offered in a Senate speech in May. They had grown out of the conditions of warfare, of the war that was waged by the Filipinos themselves, a semicivilized people, with all the tendencies and characteristics of Asiatics, with the Asiatic indifference to life, with the Asiatic treachery and the Asiatic cruelty...
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
41 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Obviously, the solution is to track down that leaker and charge him/her with espionage.
deurbano
Jul 2013
#1
First we must decide if it's a leaker or a traitor or spy. I suggest the gov start using "Depends"
L0oniX
Jul 2013
#6
The poster was echoing the actual concern of our government. Covering their ass. nt
valerief
Jul 2013
#9
Another leaker with a stripper girl friend, who dropped out of school and had a sex change.
L0oniX
Jul 2013
#5
In contrast, I think it's fair to consider the US bombing in Cambodia and Laos
cheapdate
Jul 2013
#11
Damn! I envy you your talent on being able to find justification for the murder
matthews
Jul 2013
#19
Is the killing of 94 children just a small price our nation willingly pays to wipe terra off the
indepat
Jul 2013
#18
We 'happily' allow many more children to die violently in the United States...
DreamGypsy
Jul 2013
#30
That 130 children killed by guns in the United States since the Newtown shootings is a price the
indepat
Jul 2013
#34
sickening warmongering murder,. no justification exists for atrocities like these.
Civilization2
Jul 2013
#22