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5. The Path To Capitulation

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Sep 26, 2013, 12:07 PM

Sep 2013

Has now been established. Obama will cave, watch and see.

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Manchin: I'd Support Delaying Obamacare To Avoid Govt Shutdown [View all] DonViejo Sep 2013 OP

Wrong answer, Senator. Skinner Sep 2013 #1

I think he's listening to the voting base in his state warrant46 Sep 2013 #31

Tenn and Ark sound like The Devil's Playground nikto Sep 2013 #71

pathetic.../nt think Sep 2013 #2

Idiot AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #3

And here it comes, folks durablend Sep 2013 #4

Mr. Manchin - they have had 3 years already rurallib Sep 2013 #55

That's the problem. He is not man enough! nt LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #82

Obama brought this on himself.. sendero Sep 2013 #69

And ^^^THIS^^^ is why one should never negotiate with terrorists! n/t markpkessinger Sep 2013 #73

The Path To Capitulation 1ProudAtheist Sep 2013 #5

Oh fuck this sharp_stick Sep 2013 #13

^^^^^ DonViejo Sep 2013 #18

O *** D *** S *** Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #24

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #30

While we're on the delusional subject, seabeckind Sep 2013 #42

What if this. What if that... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #44

Ahh, seabeckind Sep 2013 #46

I have "unconditional" support for Obama? How do you know this? Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #48

Buh bye, seabeckind Sep 2013 #50

So it's ok if you sling around derogatory epithets, but not if others do it. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #51

O.K., so I take that back. I won't compare you to Teabaggers and you won't Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #59

Haha! You've got a deal with me, that's for DAMN sure! beerandjesus Sep 2013 #62

Well, that's a start and I appreciate that. I wish more around here were like you. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #64

Couldn't agree more.... beerandjesus Sep 2013 #67

GOPers would... nikto Sep 2013 #72

The 11-dimensional chess master may have tasked Manchin with floating this trial balloon. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #47

Interesting. But I don't see why forcing the Republicans to raise the debt ceiling is BO's problem. ancianita Sep 2013 #88

Well, assuming it's just a trial balloon, which I think is likely: beerandjesus Sep 2013 #92

Thanks. ancianita Sep 2013 #94

Will never happen despite perhaps your high hopes. nt babylonsister Sep 2013 #26

You're definitely being pessimistic, but the cheerleading squad is missing the point. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #40

The republicans are trying to kill it by defunding... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #58

Fail. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #6

BULLSHIT.... They'll delay delay delay and then delay some more if we let them groundloop Sep 2013 #7

You are a U.S. Senator from West Virginia you 8-ball. Your people need you to think. IADEMO2004 Sep 2013 #8

Sadly, that's what he's likely thinking of durablend Sep 2013 #11

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #23

One of the poorest states in the Union has a Senator who sides with WCGreen Sep 2013 #9

Would he support delaying his healthcare to avoid a government shutdown? Drunken Irishman Sep 2013 #10

TradeOff anokaflash Sep 2013 #12

No. That is the LAST thing we should be doing. Most of the people who rely on emergency rooms pnwmom Sep 2013 #20

I'd support not giving Manchin and his family government funded health insurance Botany Sep 2013 #14

Democrat, rolling over, again. heaven05 Sep 2013 #15

I think this guy is ready to jump parties. DCBob Sep 2013 #16

Nope. Standard WV Dem. Rockefeller was a bit of an exceptioon. HERVEPA Sep 2013 #29

Then there's not a hill-a-beans of difference between the parties in that state. DCBob Sep 2013 #32

Of course you would. Autumn Sep 2013 #17

Individuals don't need another year, they need insurance. Manchin can suck eggs. Dollface Sep 2013 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #21

He needs to go back to pushing for Gun Control BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #22

Anyone who understand the mechanics of this program knows delaying the mandate.. DCBob Sep 2013 #25

Bingo. It is a poison pill. It will make rates shoot up and kill the exchanges. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #79

I am beginning to realize the gopers know obamacare is going to be popular.. DCBob Sep 2013 #86

O.K., now let me ask this... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #27

^^^ This post is exactly right beerandjesus Sep 2013 #56

I think he will. I'm more afraid of the cowardly Democrats in the Senate Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #57

Actually it's all about Obama. seabeckind Sep 2013 #80

Translation: I support blackmail by thugs. HERVEPA Sep 2013 #28

He even uses the word "sensible." Orsino Sep 2013 #33

If you just wait 1 year, I swear I won't pull the football away then Charlie Brown. nt GoneFishin Sep 2013 #34

They are going to FUCKING cave! liberal N proud Sep 2013 #35

The Republicans are split right now, knowing if they shut it down they will lose. The Stranger Sep 2013 #36

I would support you killing my wife Garion_55 Sep 2013 #37

HELL NO! tofuandbeer Sep 2013 #38

These are the little things that really make you wonder if the whole thing is rigged. The Stranger Sep 2013 #39

No!!! seabeckind Sep 2013 #45

This has a slight stink of the Public Option kabuki theater, when the public option was GoneFishin Sep 2013 #93

Why the fuck would you say that out loud? Richardo Sep 2013 #41

Vote against the ACA, don't come to us for money in 2018. Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #43

Manchin rso Sep 2013 #49

it's like republicans won the election Skittles Sep 2013 #52

When you enemy is on its heels The Wizard Sep 2013 #53

Well that's a misleading title. He is open to delaying the penalty for not having insurance a year. dkf Sep 2013 #54

No penalty= No mandate Humble companion Sep 2013 #60

Yes but the penalty is minimal anyway for year one. dkf Sep 2013 #63

welcome to du otherone Sep 2013 #65

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #90

Meh. he's in WVA just saying what he's got to say n/r broadcaster75201 Sep 2013 #61

perhaps floating a trial balloon otherone Sep 2013 #66

I see that the bored Republicans have found this thread Kolesar Sep 2013 #68

Congratulations ... markpkessinger Sep 2013 #74

Q.E.D. Kolesar Sep 2013 #95

What a Blue-Dog Democratic SCUM-BAG!! nikto Sep 2013 #70

But exactly what are we to do? seabeckind Sep 2013 #77

The other Democrats need to take Joe Manchin out to the parking lot. And have a chat with him. nt Snotcicles Sep 2013 #75

"Reasonable and sensible", eh? I see a certain woodchuck rearing his head! bullwinkle428 Sep 2013 #76

Damn Coward. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #78

I thought Manchin was an okay guy when he supported sensible gun control legislation Politicub Sep 2013 #81

That pretty much cost him hollowdweller Sep 2013 #97

Too many times Manchin has been unreasonable and not sensible. LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #83

NO. NO more "compromise". northoftheborder Sep 2013 #84

Good thing he has absolutely no say in this. andtheBeast Sep 2013 #85

Time to retire. aquart Sep 2013 #87

His voicemail is full, so here are other ways to contact him. CBHagman Sep 2013 #89

What an idiot. blackspade Sep 2013 #91

So another year of House obsession with Obamacare and another extortion this time next year? Kablooie Sep 2013 #96

Actually I might support a delay as well cstanleytech Sep 2013 #98