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seabeckind

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80. Actually it's all about Obama.

Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:57 PM

Sep 2013

Has been from the very beginning.

In this case even if every blue dog caves...he still has the veto.

They can't override so they either watch the gov't crash or they pass a clean bill.

Based on what these people have done in the past...like the sequester that everyone said no one would be crazy enough to do...that they did...

I don't have high hopes.

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Manchin: I'd Support Delaying Obamacare To Avoid Govt Shutdown [View all] DonViejo Sep 2013 OP

Wrong answer, Senator. Skinner Sep 2013 #1

I think he's listening to the voting base in his state warrant46 Sep 2013 #31

Tenn and Ark sound like The Devil's Playground nikto Sep 2013 #71

pathetic.../nt think Sep 2013 #2

Idiot AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #3

And here it comes, folks durablend Sep 2013 #4

Mr. Manchin - they have had 3 years already rurallib Sep 2013 #55

That's the problem. He is not man enough! nt LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #82

Obama brought this on himself.. sendero Sep 2013 #69

And ^^^THIS^^^ is why one should never negotiate with terrorists! n/t markpkessinger Sep 2013 #73

The Path To Capitulation 1ProudAtheist Sep 2013 #5

Oh fuck this sharp_stick Sep 2013 #13

^^^^^ DonViejo Sep 2013 #18

O *** D *** S *** Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #24

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Sep 2013 #30

While we're on the delusional subject, seabeckind Sep 2013 #42

What if this. What if that... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #44

Ahh, seabeckind Sep 2013 #46

I have "unconditional" support for Obama? How do you know this? Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #48

Buh bye, seabeckind Sep 2013 #50

So it's ok if you sling around derogatory epithets, but not if others do it. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #51

O.K., so I take that back. I won't compare you to Teabaggers and you won't Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #59

Haha! You've got a deal with me, that's for DAMN sure! beerandjesus Sep 2013 #62

Well, that's a start and I appreciate that. I wish more around here were like you. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #64

Couldn't agree more.... beerandjesus Sep 2013 #67

GOPers would... nikto Sep 2013 #72

The 11-dimensional chess master may have tasked Manchin with floating this trial balloon. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #47

Interesting. But I don't see why forcing the Republicans to raise the debt ceiling is BO's problem. ancianita Sep 2013 #88

Well, assuming it's just a trial balloon, which I think is likely: beerandjesus Sep 2013 #92

Thanks. ancianita Sep 2013 #94

Will never happen despite perhaps your high hopes. nt babylonsister Sep 2013 #26

You're definitely being pessimistic, but the cheerleading squad is missing the point. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #40

The republicans are trying to kill it by defunding... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #58

Fail. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #6

BULLSHIT.... They'll delay delay delay and then delay some more if we let them groundloop Sep 2013 #7

You are a U.S. Senator from West Virginia you 8-ball. Your people need you to think. IADEMO2004 Sep 2013 #8

Sadly, that's what he's likely thinking of durablend Sep 2013 #11

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #23

One of the poorest states in the Union has a Senator who sides with WCGreen Sep 2013 #9

Would he support delaying his healthcare to avoid a government shutdown? Drunken Irishman Sep 2013 #10

TradeOff anokaflash Sep 2013 #12

No. That is the LAST thing we should be doing. Most of the people who rely on emergency rooms pnwmom Sep 2013 #20

I'd support not giving Manchin and his family government funded health insurance Botany Sep 2013 #14

Democrat, rolling over, again. heaven05 Sep 2013 #15

I think this guy is ready to jump parties. DCBob Sep 2013 #16

Nope. Standard WV Dem. Rockefeller was a bit of an exceptioon. HERVEPA Sep 2013 #29

Then there's not a hill-a-beans of difference between the parties in that state. DCBob Sep 2013 #32

Of course you would. Autumn Sep 2013 #17

Individuals don't need another year, they need insurance. Manchin can suck eggs. Dollface Sep 2013 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #21

He needs to go back to pushing for Gun Control BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #22

Anyone who understand the mechanics of this program knows delaying the mandate.. DCBob Sep 2013 #25

Bingo. It is a poison pill. It will make rates shoot up and kill the exchanges. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #79

I am beginning to realize the gopers know obamacare is going to be popular.. DCBob Sep 2013 #86

O.K., now let me ask this... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #27

^^^ This post is exactly right beerandjesus Sep 2013 #56

I think he will. I'm more afraid of the cowardly Democrats in the Senate Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #57

Actually it's all about Obama. seabeckind Sep 2013 #80

Translation: I support blackmail by thugs. HERVEPA Sep 2013 #28

He even uses the word "sensible." Orsino Sep 2013 #33

If you just wait 1 year, I swear I won't pull the football away then Charlie Brown. nt GoneFishin Sep 2013 #34

They are going to FUCKING cave! liberal N proud Sep 2013 #35

The Republicans are split right now, knowing if they shut it down they will lose. The Stranger Sep 2013 #36

I would support you killing my wife Garion_55 Sep 2013 #37

HELL NO! tofuandbeer Sep 2013 #38

These are the little things that really make you wonder if the whole thing is rigged. The Stranger Sep 2013 #39

No!!! seabeckind Sep 2013 #45

This has a slight stink of the Public Option kabuki theater, when the public option was GoneFishin Sep 2013 #93

Why the fuck would you say that out loud? Richardo Sep 2013 #41

Vote against the ACA, don't come to us for money in 2018. Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #43

Manchin rso Sep 2013 #49

it's like republicans won the election Skittles Sep 2013 #52

When you enemy is on its heels The Wizard Sep 2013 #53

Well that's a misleading title. He is open to delaying the penalty for not having insurance a year. dkf Sep 2013 #54

No penalty= No mandate Humble companion Sep 2013 #60

Yes but the penalty is minimal anyway for year one. dkf Sep 2013 #63

welcome to du otherone Sep 2013 #65

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #90

Meh. he's in WVA just saying what he's got to say n/r broadcaster75201 Sep 2013 #61

perhaps floating a trial balloon otherone Sep 2013 #66

I see that the bored Republicans have found this thread Kolesar Sep 2013 #68

Congratulations ... markpkessinger Sep 2013 #74

Q.E.D. Kolesar Sep 2013 #95

What a Blue-Dog Democratic SCUM-BAG!! nikto Sep 2013 #70

But exactly what are we to do? seabeckind Sep 2013 #77

The other Democrats need to take Joe Manchin out to the parking lot. And have a chat with him. nt Snotcicles Sep 2013 #75

"Reasonable and sensible", eh? I see a certain woodchuck rearing his head! bullwinkle428 Sep 2013 #76

Damn Coward. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #78

I thought Manchin was an okay guy when he supported sensible gun control legislation Politicub Sep 2013 #81

That pretty much cost him hollowdweller Sep 2013 #97

Too many times Manchin has been unreasonable and not sensible. LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #83

NO. NO more "compromise". northoftheborder Sep 2013 #84

Good thing he has absolutely no say in this. andtheBeast Sep 2013 #85

Time to retire. aquart Sep 2013 #87

His voicemail is full, so here are other ways to contact him. CBHagman Sep 2013 #89

What an idiot. blackspade Sep 2013 #91

So another year of House obsession with Obamacare and another extortion this time next year? Kablooie Sep 2013 #96

Actually I might support a delay as well cstanleytech Sep 2013 #98