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108. WSJ, Front Page: Drugged as Children, Foster-Care Alumni Speak Out

Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:58 PM

Feb 2014

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303442704579361333470749104

Drugged as Children, Foster-Care Alumni Speak Out
Use of Powerful Antipsychotics on Youths in Such Homes Comes Under Greater Scrutiny

By LUCETTE LAGNADO
Updated Feb. 23, 2014 2:44 p.m. ET

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Plan to Limit Some Drugs in Medicare Is Criticized [View all] anasv Feb 2014 OP

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction pipoman Feb 2014 #1

Absolutely right. If the doctor wants to prescribe generic accupril, but THIS panel says no, you lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #2

Watch how this works... durablend Feb 2014 #10

Actually that is not the case. It looks like Democrats are uniting with repugs on this in Congress. lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #21

The screening guidelines Sgent Feb 2014 #25

Explain how mammograms and PSA cause "much harm". Enthusiast Feb 2014 #30

Keeping mind we are only talking about screening tests Sgent Feb 2014 #60

I believe the REAL reason for the arguments Enthusiast Feb 2014 #61

Cost is definitely an issue. The good news is most doctors are NOT following those recommendations, lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #69

I understand why you would think that, Enthusiast, but the concerns about the risks of mammos have DesertDiamond Feb 2014 #89

I'm not buying it. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #90

Many times when symptoms occur is too late, especially for PCa, and mamograms. The Mamogram study lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #68

I am sorry, most experts in the field of Prostate Cancer would disagree with you. What has changed lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #67

Read David Goroski on this Sgent Feb 2014 #70

No one makes a diagnosis on psa or dre alone, however if the velocity of the psa is lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #74

as far as i am concerned there is very little difference when it gets to the top. madrchsod Feb 2014 #4

And can there really be any medical rationale? Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #14

You are absolutely right. This is totally insane, and people are going to get hurt lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #23

There is no Medicare D plan that I have found that murielm99 Feb 2014 #41

Yes, they don't like the use of desicated thyroid drugs Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #83

follow the money.... madrchsod Feb 2014 #3

I 2nd that INdemo Feb 2014 #11

Yes, I see this sort of thing all the time. Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #15

Bingo jsr Feb 2014 #20

Exactly, follow the money trail, that's usually what happens with proposals like this, and RKP5637 Feb 2014 #53

The issue here is the same issue that was debated when Part D was established. Can the government okaawhatever Feb 2014 #71

Thanks. Part D was NOT an unqualified success, was reputed to be bankrupting Medicare, and many freshwest Feb 2014 #91

Never signed up for it HockeyMom Feb 2014 #95

madrchsod anasv Feb 2014 #106

bistolic(?) high blood pressure. madrchsod Feb 2014 #109

I read the whole article and now am not so sure OKNancy Feb 2014 #5

What do you see as the positive results for patients under this change? Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #7

as I wrote I'm not sure OKNancy Feb 2014 #8

Oh, you shouldn't be confused. Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #17

Not true. Example. You have to hypertensive drugs, generic Lisinopril and generic Accurpril for lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #26

Yes, and they are talking about a very small price difference Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #84

I agree with your points of course. Maybe in the next few days we will see the accuracy of this, lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #86

Well, for schizophrenics RiverNoord Feb 2014 #6

"Incredibly stupid" Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #18

That is even more true for psychotropics where it is well known that one medicine to treat a lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #27

Preferred pharmacies already forced our last independent pharmacy to close starroute Feb 2014 #9

They'll survive fine - we have three CVS, two Walgreens and two Rite Aids... George II Feb 2014 #24

I hope RiteAid survives anasv Feb 2014 #31

My wife loves the pharmacist at our "local" Rite Aid... George II Feb 2014 #38

You have three CVS, two Walgreens and two Rite Aids within three miles of you? Enthusiast Feb 2014 #32

Actually there are FOUR CVS stores within that three mile radius (not driving miles)... George II Feb 2014 #36

Three Walgreens within three miles, ten within 8.9 miles George II Feb 2014 #39

10 Rite Aid stores within 10.45 miles! Happy? George II Feb 2014 #40

I found it to be unbelievable. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #42

No big deal, when I started counting them up I was amazed myself... George II Feb 2014 #43

Dunkin Donuts anasv Feb 2014 #94

Yeah, New Englanders drink coffee and eat donuts until they're sick.... George II Feb 2014 #99

Then you're in a city. JoeyT Feb 2014 #54

I'm about 10 miles south of Hartford George II Feb 2014 #57

The new thing is for insurers to insist you get your meds from the mail order guys; greiner3 Feb 2014 #73

Screw CVS. mimi85 Feb 2014 #76

people treating mental illness struggle every day... tomp Feb 2014 #12

What do other countries do? Oh, yeah, they don't have outrageously inflated drug prices valerief Feb 2014 #13

"an Obama administration proposal" OFFS!!!!! L0oniX Feb 2014 #16

Still think we voted for a Democrat? INdemo Feb 2014 #19

It is a stupid, penny wise pound foolish proposal. Call or write the President. Also, let your lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #29

"an Obama administration proposal." woo me with science Feb 2014 #22

Every. Single. Fucking. Day. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #33

Medicare isnt the only one wanting to change the rules SmittynMo Feb 2014 #28

Same deal here. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #34

I am looking for an "effective" acid reflux drug. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #35

Ranitidine SmittynMo Feb 2014 #48

Thanks. My wife will check out the Zantac. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #50

Ranitidine is the generic form Sgent Feb 2014 #72

Glad to know that. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #75

Milder case? SmittynMo Feb 2014 #81

But how could you know. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #88

I take generic Vicodin for chronic pain DJ13 Feb 2014 #55

SmittynMo anasv Feb 2014 #107

Truth is, we'll never get health care under control. Greed of providers, insurers, and unwillingness Hoyt Feb 2014 #37

The Obama Administration could change the rules. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #44

They are doing something for us, people just don't get it. Hoyt Feb 2014 #45

Mostly they are dedicated to protecting the profits of the pharmaceutical industry. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #46

Actually, it doesn't protect their profits, that is why drug companies are whining. Read article. Hoyt Feb 2014 #47

+10000 And just wait 'til Obama gets his TPP. woo me with science Feb 2014 #100

Hopefully we can prevent the damned TPP. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #102

They dont give a shit about "US". SmittynMo Feb 2014 #49

insurance companies should not be allowed to limit insured to their pharmacies. Sunlei Feb 2014 #51

Actually, they get better pricing and coordination of care. Saves you costs, keeps premiums down. Hoyt Feb 2014 #52

The insurance corps and the drug corps are price gouging American consumers for more profits. Sunlei Feb 2014 #56

+1 a shit load! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #58

If you go in hospital, the only way to avoid paying $800 for a $4 bag of fluid is to have insurance. Hoyt Feb 2014 #59

I know because Medicare is supposed to be nonprofit. All our healthcare *should* be non-profit. Sunlei Feb 2014 #62

Actually, that 20% covers marketing, administration, etc., nor just profits. Hoyt Feb 2014 #63

The bill was meant to limit the profits earned (by the insurance corps) to 20% of the revenues. Sunlei Feb 2014 #65

No, it was meant to limit non-medical care to 20%. That means administration, marketing, Hoyt Feb 2014 #79

CMS issues rule to empower it to negotiate drug prices, opponents immediately spin it as a negative. ProSense Feb 2014 #64

good points. Rs probably want to create cover over- President Os call to raise the minimum wage. Sunlei Feb 2014 #66

This isn't about negotiations of drug prices, it is suggesting a different drug of the same class. lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #77

PhRMA opposes the rule. From the NYT article: ProSense Feb 2014 #80

Something isn't synching right. I can only tell you my wife got a letter from Medicare a few days lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #85

This crud has become so twisted/distorted that people are now trusting BigPharm over Obama. Hoyt Feb 2014 #87

Well, we're supposed to be against Obama because the subliminals say so! n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #97

You hit it out of the park as usual. Thanks, ProSense. freshwest Feb 2014 #96

good guzman88 Feb 2014 #78

Live in low income Senior apartment building kickysnana Feb 2014 #82

I don't think that Medicare should meddle with a doctor's judgment JDPriestly Feb 2014 #92

I wish you the very best Enthusiast Feb 2014 #93

You can always pay for it yourself in that situation. Not sure what caused your situation, so maybe Hoyt Feb 2014 #98

It would be too late. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #101

That's what happens in the UK on the NHS dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #103

That's one of the reasons the NHS works there. Citizens there accept limitations that Hoyt Feb 2014 #104

The issue is some drugs which are really expensive. dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #105

WSJ, Front Page: Drugged as Children, Foster-Care Alumni Speak Out proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #108